The REAL P4P list, not based on what they've achieved - But who's better right NOW!

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

OK... I'll do a P4P list on exactly WHO I think will WIN if WEIGHT wasn't a factor RIGHT NOW!!!... NOT what they have acheived in their career!

THIS IS SURPOSED TO BE WHAT P4P IS ALL ABOUT!!!

For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!...

1. Barrera - He's got it all, and has proved it against the elite!

2. Wright - I've said for a long time this boy can out-box anyone! This is nothing to do with his recent victory!

3. Morales - Has mixed in the top class forever, and is still on top of his game!

4. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's the best 140lbr and the future of boxing!

5. Pacquiao - He maybe a little one dimensional, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... He's showed his effectiveness against the best!

6. Mayweather - He maybe a little feather fisted, but he's got the skills to move and out-box almost all!

7. Tsyzu - With THAT MUCH POWER IN EITHER HAND! You can't dissmiss this guy, Not only that, he's an excellent boxer to boot!!!

8. Judah - Is an excellent boxer with good power in either hand, I think he's learnt a LOT for the Tszyu defeat!

9. Calzaghe - This isn't because I come from the UK, but He's 39-0 31ko's and has ruled the division since 1997! He looks to take your head off!

10. Hopkins - below Calzaghe because I think Calzaghe would beat him, but this is a sly old fox who will run and hit!


This is my P4P list!... I know it's very different from the usual **** you see. But I think P4P is surposed to be about "THEE BEST FIGHTER RIGHT NOW IF WEIGHT WASN'T A FACTOR"... Well this is what I think.

There's no marketing hype or what they've done in their careers before hand in there... just total honesty!



What do you guy's think?... It's different I KNOW!. ... LOL!...

[moochi]

sorry mate, but you are so far off...........i won't even bother pointing how far off you are.

[ottoevans]

yeah that list is just .....damn

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

yeah that list is just .....damn

Yeah but like explained... It's not about what fighters have achieved in their careers. It's about who would win right now if weight wasn't a factor P4P.

For example Bernard may have made 20 defences of his IBF belt etc which is a great achievment, but at the same weight, there's no way that him at 40yrs of age is gonna be able to keep a young fired up Pacquiao off him. (It may have worked against a tired Eastman... But not against a ruthless young Pacquiao).

Try to block out all the marketing hype and career achievements, and just concentrate on Who's the BEST right now!

[moochi]

Yeah but like explained... It's not about what fighters have achieved in their careers. It's about who would win right now if weight wasn't a factor P4P.

For example Bernard may have made 20 defences of his IBF belt etc which is a great achievment, but at the same weight, there's no way that him at 40yrs of age is gonna be able to keep a young fired up Pacquiao off him. (It may have worked against a tired Eastman... But not against a ruthless young Pacquiao).

Try to block out all the marketing hype and career achievements, and just concentrate on Who's the BEST right now!

mate. what you are saying doesn't make sense......how are youto know who is the best right now??..this is by their recent fight results and against the opposition they have fought..................

you said "For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!..."

but haven't you ever wondered why heavyweights don't punch like lightweights??????? c'mon, there must be a reason??!!??

[NAB]

OK... I'll do a P4P list on exactly WHO I think will WIN if WEIGHT wasn't a factor RIGHT NOW!!!... NOT what they have acheived in their career!

THIS IS SURPOSED TO BE WHAT P4P IS ALL ABOUT!!!

For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!...

1. Barrera - He's got it all, and has proved it against the elite!

2. Wright - I've said for a long time this boy can out-box anyone! This is nothing to do with his recent victory!

3. Morales - Has mixed in the top class forever, and is still on top of his game!

4. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's the best 140lbr and the future of boxing!

5. Pacquiao - He maybe a little one dimensional, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... He's showed his effectiveness against the best!

6. Mayweather - He maybe a little feather fisted, but he's got the skills to move and out-box almost all!

7. Tsyzu - With THAT MUCH POWER IN EITHER HAND! You can't dissmiss this guy, Not only that, he's an excellent boxer to boot!!!

8. Judah - Is an excellent boxer with good power in either hand, I think he's learnt a LOT for the Tszyu defeat!

9. Calzaghe - This isn't because I come from the UK, but He's 39-0 31ko's and has ruled the division since 1997! He looks to take your head off!

10. Hopkins - below Calzaghe because I think Calzaghe would beat him, but this is a sly old fox who will run and hit!


This is my P4P list!... I know it's very different from the usual **** you see. But I think P4P is surposed to be about "THEE BEST FIGHTER RIGHT NOW IF WEIGHT WASN'T A FACTOR"... Well this is what I think.

There's no marketing hype or what they've done in their careers before hand in there... just total honesty!



What do you guy's think?... It's different I KNOW!. ... LOL!...

That list is possibly the worst P4P list I have ever seen, P4P.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

That list is possibly the worst P4P list I have ever seen, P4P.

I think the best way to look at this list (with the exception of Cotto) is too look at the class level of opposition these fighters have faced, and you'll notice that it get's lower and lower the further down the list you go.

This is a TRUE P4P list based on Who's the BEST right now!

There is definatly a logic behind this picking... You just have to block out the marketing hype, media bulls**t and you can see it!

[NAB]

I think the best way to look at this list (with the exception of Cotto) is too look at the class level of opposition these fighters have faced, and you'll notice that it get's lower and lower the further down the list you go.

This is a TRUE P4P list based on Who's the BEST right now!

There is definatly a logic behind this picking... You just have to block out the marketing hype, media bulls**t and you can see it!

Sorry mate. That list is really, really bad.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Sorry mate. That list is really, really bad.

Well think about it this way instead then... It's very easy for top fighters to look awesome, powerfull, slick, when they're fighting the Gonzalez's/Glen Kelly's/Clinton Woods of the boxing World. But it's a very different story when they step up in class.

It's not easy to knock guy's like Pacquiao/Barrera/In Jin Chi/Alaya etc etc etc out!... These are WORLD class fighters! From all corners of the World!

[NAB]

Well think about it this way instead then... It's very easy for top fighters to look awesome, powerfull, slick, when they're fighting the Gonzalez's/Glen Kelly's/Clinton Woods of the boxing World.

Coming from a guy who thinks Hatton is going to win...