The REAL P4P list, not based on what they've achieved - But who's better right NOW!

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  • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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    #21
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    The champ(undisputed champ, which btw is Kostya) is the best fighter in his division, and by saying that Cotto is the best super lightweight, you are saying that he is the champ and tszyu does now rightfully own his championship status. That is basically calling somebody a paper champ.
    I Ain't saying that Miguel Cotto is the Champion... What I'm saying is, I think that Miguel Cotto would beat the champion! If he fought him.

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    • NAB
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      #22
      Originally posted by martinwbc
      Yeah... And Hopkins got out-boxed!
      So you think Barerra would beat prime RJJ pound for pound??

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      • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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        #23
        Originally posted by NAB
        Hopkins fought Roy Jones for Cliff's sake.

        Originally posted by martinwbc
        Yeah... And Hopkins got out-boxed!


        Yeah I just got it fella... LOL!... ... That does contradict what I was saying about Barrera.

        OK take away RJJ and which other great MIDDLEWEIGHTS would you say were on the resume? (p.s... Don't mention De La Hoya/Trinidad Coz' they ain't middleweights).

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        • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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          #24
          Originally posted by NAB
          So you think Barerra would beat prime RJJ pound for pound??
          I dunno... That's a tough one. They are both excellent fighters.

          Perhaps the fight would end up like the Barrera vs Hamed fight

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          • The Pretender
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            #25
            WTF...Hopkins may be a running ***** but he shouldn't be last on that list. And Pac overrated and loses against the only great fighter he faces. And Wright may shut out Tito but thats because Tito sucks and so Wright surely doesn't deserve to be #2 when he hasnt accomplished that much yet. And where the hell is Ruiz, he 5-1 in hw division, best record there, so obviously ranked P4P.

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            • Mr. Ryan
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              #26
              1. Bernard Hopkins
              2. Kostya Tszyu
              3. Winky Wright
              4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
              5. Diego Corrales
              6. Marco Antonio Barrera
              7. Erik Morales
              8. Manny Pacquiao
              9. Glen Johnson
              10. Zab Judah

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              • Run
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                #27
                Originally posted by martinwbc
                OK... I'll do a P4P list on exactly WHO I think will WIN if WEIGHT wasn't a factor RIGHT NOW!!!... NOT what they have acheived in their career!

                THIS IS SURPOSED TO BE WHAT P4P IS ALL ABOUT!!!

                For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!...

                1. Barrera - He's got it all, and has proved it against the elite!

                2. Wright - I've said for a long time this boy can out-box anyone! This is nothing to do with his recent victory!

                3. Morales - Has mixed in the top class forever, and is still on top of his game!

                4. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's the best 140lbr and the future of boxing!

                5. Pacquiao - He maybe a little one dimensional, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... He's showed his effectiveness against the best!

                6. Mayweather - He maybe a little feather fisted, but he's got the skills to move and out-box almost all!

                7. Tsyzu - With THAT MUCH POWER IN EITHER HAND! You can't dissmiss this guy, Not only that, he's an excellent boxer to boot!!!

                8. Judah - Is an excellent boxer with good power in either hand, I think he's learnt a LOT for the Tszyu defeat!

                9. Calzaghe - This isn't because I come from the UK, but He's 39-0 31ko's and has ruled the division since 1997! He looks to take your head off!

                10. Hopkins - below Calzaghe because I think Calzaghe would beat him, but this is a sly old fox who will run and hit!


                This is my P4P list!... I know it's very different from the usual **** you see. But I think P4P is surposed to be about "THEE BEST FIGHTER RIGHT NOW IF WEIGHT WASN'T A FACTOR"... Well this is what I think.

                There's no marketing hype or what they've done in their careers before hand in there... just total honesty!



                What do you guy's think?... It's different I KNOW!. ... LOL!...
                Opinions differ. I like the fact you acknowledge Barrera as a top 5 fighter....which he is. Definitely not #1 though. The rest of your list I wont argue with...except for Calzaghe's presence. However you see it...is your thing. I just would never add Joe to the top 10, that is ridiculous.



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                • jack_the_rippuh
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                  #28
                  If weight wasn't a factor Floyd Mayweather Jr. could beat Bernard Hopkins.

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                  • Double
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                    #29
                    4. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's the best 140lbr and the future of boxing!

                    ok, you're crazy!

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                    • Manny_P
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                      #30
                      This is my P4P list! Not based on the usual boo**** Hopkins!

                      1. Mayweather
                      2. Morales
                      3. Winky
                      4. Tszyu
                      5. B-Hop

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