The REAL P4P list, not based on what they've achieved - But who's better right NOW!

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Coming from a guy who thinks Hatton is going to win...

I never said that I think Hatton will win... I think the fight is 57%-43% in Kostya Tszyu's favour.

But I do think there's a big chance that Hatton could pull off an upset!

[ottoevans]

well if put every fighter at one weight class and still caring their power and speed B-Hop would demolish Pacman. Pacman is not a smart fighter B-hop is.

[NAB]

I must have been looking at your avatar.

[TRUEVisionDC]

Martin, Ive only been posting about a month but reading about a year. ALthough you have insightful things to say, this is the worse. Mainly b/c of the logic you are using to do it. Dont get me wrong, I understand WHY you say what you say, but it is just wrong. You cant take the best the way youre taking it.

Thats like saying what the best automobile, a Maybach or a Ferrari. To different classes altogether. I know you want to compare them...The bottom line is: you cant!!

[BrooklynBomber]

OK... I'll do a P4P list on exactly WHO I think will WIN if WEIGHT wasn't a factor RIGHT NOW!!!... NOT what they have acheived in their career!

THIS IS SURPOSED TO BE WHAT P4P IS ALL ABOUT!!!

For example there's no way in the World a 40yr old Hopkins would be able to keep a 26yr old Pacquiao off him at the same weight!... Hence the meaning of P4P!...

1. Barrera - He's got it all, and has proved it against the elite!

2. Wright - I've said for a long time this boy can out-box anyone! This is nothing to do with his recent victory!

3. Morales - Has mixed in the top class forever, and is still on top of his game!

4. Cotto - Call me crazy but this guy is SOOOO STRONG and hit's like a kick for a mule! He's the best 140lbr and the future of boxing!

5. Pacquiao - He maybe a little one dimensional, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"... He's showed his effectiveness against the best!

6. Mayweather - He maybe a little feather fisted, but he's got the skills to move and out-box almost all!

7. Tsyzu - With THAT MUCH POWER IN EITHER HAND! You can't dissmiss this guy, Not only that, he's an excellent boxer to boot!!!

8. Judah - Is an excellent boxer with good power in either hand, I think he's learnt a LOT for the Tszyu defeat!

9. Calzaghe - This isn't because I come from the UK, but He's 39-0 31ko's and has ruled the division since 1997! He looks to take your head off!

10. Hopkins - below Calzaghe because I think Calzaghe would beat him, but this is a sly old fox who will run and hit!


This is my P4P list!... I know it's very different from the usual **** you see. But I think P4P is surposed to be about "THEE BEST FIGHTER RIGHT NOW IF WEIGHT WASN'T A FACTOR"... Well this is what I think.

There's no marketing hype or what they've done in their careers before hand in there... just total honesty!



What do you guy's think?... It's different I KNOW!. ... LOL!...

So you basically saying that Cotto would whip Tszyu, and Kostya is a paper champ. Based on your logic on who is gonna beat who.
Interesting logic. Very interesting. Do they have funny houses there at Limey land. because you seriously need to go to one of them. No offense intended.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Martin, Ive only been posting about a month but reading about a year. ALthough you have insightful things to say, this is the worse. Mainly b/c of the logic you are using to do it. Dont get me wrong, I understand WHY you say what you say, but it is just wrong. You cant take the best the way youre taking it.

Thats like saying what the best automobile, a Maybach or a Ferrari. To different classes altogether. I know you want to compare them...The bottom line is: you cant!!

I just reckon the best way to rate fighters is by fact, not opinion. Looking at who they've fought, and how they did against them. Not saying, "well I think that they would win that fight if it did ever happen ".

If Barrera had been mixing in the level of competetion that for example: Bernard has in his career, then Barrera would be an unbeaten fighter now... But Barrera hasn't... He's taken on some GIGANTIC challenges and maybe lost a couple along the way, that doesn't matter to me... The fact that he's stepped up and taken them on is why I hold him in such high regard.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

So you basically saying that Cotto would whip Tszyu, and Kostya is a paper champ. Based on your logic on who is gonna beat who.
Interesting logic. Very interesting. Do they have funny houses there at Limey land. because you seriously need to go to one of them. No offense intended.

As I stated above... I think Miguel Cotto is the best 140lb fighter in the World today. (And this is coming from a Ricky Hatton).

I never have, and would NEVER say that Kostya Tszyu is just a paper champ!

He's in my top 10 P4P list!!! But "YES" ... I have rated Cotto above him, and by doing that, I think that Cotto would beat him.

[NAB]

If Barrera had been mixing in the level of competetion that for example: Bernard has in his career, then Barrera would be an unbeaten fighter now... But Barrera hasn't... He's taken on some GIGANTIC challenges and maybe lost a couple along the way, that doesn't matter to me... The fact that he's stepped up and taken them on is why I hold him in such high regard.

Hopkins fought Roy Jones for Cliff's sake.

[BrooklynBomber]

As I stated above... I think Miguel Cotto is the best 140lb fighter in the World today. (And this is coming from a Ricky Hatton).

I never have, and would NEVER say that Kostya Tszyu is just a paper champ!

He's in my top 10 P4P list!!! But "YES" ... I have rated Cotto above him, and by doing that, I think that Cotto would beat him.

The champ(undisputed champ, which btw is Kostya) is the best fighter in his division, and by saying that Cotto is the best super lightweight, you are saying that he is the champ and tszyu does now rightfully own his championship status. That is basically calling somebody a paper champ.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Hopkins fought Roy Jones for Cliff's sake.

Yeah... And Hopkins got out-boxed!