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[jrosales13]

I never said there was nothing wrong with that. What they are doing with Khan is no different then what Arum is doing with Jr.

OK what contract does Chavez Jr have with Golden Boy/HBO that he will not fight a certain fighter in the next 3 fights or in a year? And, who is that certain fighter who they are avoiding? How exactly is it the same thing?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

And, another thing with Top Rank. People like to **** on Bob Arum Latin Fury and Pinoy Power PPV cards. But, they fail to realize that Arum pays for those PPV's out of his own pocket. In some events he LOSSES money. HE MAKES NO PROFIT SOMETIMES EVEN LOSSES MONEY. There is a reason why you don't see Golden Boy and all the other major promotions companies doing independents PPVs. But, he does that to keep his fighters name out there to the public to keep his fighters active he does right by his fighters. But, yet fans who really don't know want to **** on that...

Despite what you make you think Arum has more then enough money to burn.

He just made 25 Million for signing his name on a piece of paper.

[jrosales13]

Same thing applies. They are protecting both of them.

Why is HBO protecting fighters though? That is not there job... The same thing does not apply...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

OK what contract does Chavez Jr have with Golden Boy/HBO that he will not fight a certain fighter in the next 3 fights or in a year? And, who is that certain fighter who they are avoiding? How exactly is it the same thing?

Because they are both over protected. Arum is trying to build Jr. GBP is trying to build Khan. Then at the end of the day Khan has fought the tougher fighters already.

[jrosales13]

Despite what you make you think Arum has more then enough money to burn.

He just made 25 Million for signing his name on a piece of paper.

He has money to burn? He is in the business to make money not to burn money? But, he does it anyways. Doesn't GBP have money to burn? But, they don't put indepent PPVs on...

[jrosales13]

Because they are both over protected. Arum is trying to build Jr. GBP is trying to build Khan. Then at the end of the day Khan has fought the tougher fighters already.

But, the contract is with GBP/HBO... Chavez JR does not have that... You taling about two totally different things....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He has money to burn? He is in the business to make money not to burn money? But, he does it anyways. Doesn't GBP have money to burn? But, they don't put indepent PPVs on...

But, the contract is with GBP/HBO... Chavez JR does not have that... You taling about two totally different things....

Thats what Im saying Arum makes more then enough cash from his fights and fighters to where he loses a profit on a latin fury card or a pinoy power it wont matter as long as that Latin and Pinoy crowd is satisfied so when Arum is making the big fights theyll tune in.


Techically you are right Chavez doesnt have a contract. But the contract he has is unwritten hes not allowed to take tough fights. It might not be on paper buts its obviosu to see. Another thing I dont like Khan but can I really blame them for keeping a potential future superstar against a guy that hits that damn hard. You say GBP rushes fighters and picks poor matchups then when they match Khan up correctly its an issue. Another thing I dont what GBP sees in Maidana other then heavy hands because he would get his ass beat by Khan.

[jrosales13]

Thats what Im saying Arum makes more then enough cash from his fights and fighters to where he loses a profit on a latin fury card or a pinoy power it wont matter as long as that Latin and Pinoy crowd is satisfied so when Arum is making the big fights theyll tune in.


Techically you are right Chavez doesnt have a contract. But the contract he has is unwritten hes not allowed to take tough fights. It might not be on paper buts its obviosu to see. Another thing I dont like Khan but can I really blame them for keeping a potential future superstar against a guy that hits that damn hard. You say GBP rushes fighters and picks poor matchups then when they match Khan up correctly its an issue. Another thing I dont what GBP sees in Maidana other then heavy hands because he would get his ass beat by Khan.

So Bob Arum is the only promoter that makes enough cash? Other promoters don't make enough cash lets say like Golden Boy to make there own independent PPV?

Chavez Jr went life and death with the likes of Matt Vanda. He looked like garbage in his last fight. The man is not a good fighter right now... What tough fights do you want him to take? He is taking it with the likes of Vanda and his last opponent. He just not that good. Do you want him to fight Sergio Martinez? Before Chavez was suspended Arum was working on putting on Chavez-Duddy. That is a hell of a tough fight for Chavez cuz he is just not that good.

And, for the last time HBO should not be in the business of protecting fighters. They are not promters giving Golden Boy blinds and have that contract with Khan is mind boggling. For you to even try to make a case and say that is not that bad is crazy. And, to try to say 'Well look at Arum with Chavez" Is two different things cuz you not watching Chavez on HBO are you? HBO job is not to protect fighters. There job is to show the best fights possible period. But, you just don't get that. So I am done with this topic...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

So Bob Arum is the only promoter that makes enough cash? Other promoters don't make enough cash lets say like Golden Boy to make there own independent PPV?

Chavez Jr went life and death with the likes of Matt Vanda. He looked like garbage in his last fight. The man is not a good fighter right now... What tough fights do you want him to take? He is taking it with the likes of Vanda and his last opponent. He just not that good. Do you want him to fight Sergio Martinez? Before Chavez was suspended Arum was working on putting on Chavez-Duddy. That is a hell of a tough fight for Chavez cuz he is just not that good.

And, for the last time HBO should not be in the business of protecting fighters. They are not promters giving Golden Boy blinds and have that contract with Khan is mind boggling. For you to even try to make a case and say that is not that bad is crazy. And, to try to say 'Well look at Arum with Chavez" Is two different things cuz you not watching Chavez on HBO are you? HBO job is not to protect fighters. There job is to show the best fights possible period. But, you just don't get that. So I am done with this topic...

HBO has alot of connections with Oscar, Haymon etc...They bring them alot of money.

[jrosales13]

HBO has alot of connections with Oscar, Haymon etc...They bring them alot of money.

Really they do? Is that why HBO had to cut 15million for there boxing budget this year?