The Klitschko Factor: Assessing Vitali

[Enayze]

Running from a guy that can't put a sentence together?

You just said a 40 year old out of shape Corrie Sanders is better than anyone Byrd's ever fought.

Corrie Sanders was KO'd in TWO rounds in his prime by NATE TUBBS.

You officially just killed any credibility you had with that statement.

You should just stop talking now. You've proven you're beyond delusional.

Who are you to say when Corries prime was? Corries prime was when he vs Vitali, that was the best performance he ever put up, and I've seen numerous amounts of his fights. A 40 Year old Corrie Sanders managed to do somethin that Byrd only dreams of, and thats knocking out the man who gave him the worst beating to date.

Corrie Sanders was ranked no.3 by Ring, and no.2 by WBC, thats by far better rankings than anyone Byrd faced, including his win over Tua.

[Guest]

but u quoted me jerk off lol, now u rip people for using lmao?

Yes, because everything you say is so lazy, repetitive and moronic. "Jerk off"? You're the jerk off, pal. Lol, LMAO. Seriously - go somewhere else than this thread. Create your own called "let's call each other names while talking about Vitali." I used to think you were okay, but you're obviously a complete ****wit. LOL LMAO.

[Mr. Ryan]

F**king Hell Man... Watched that Robin Reid vs Sven Ottke fight on the BBC aswell!...

I've watched A LOT of boxing over the years... But that was without a doubt the craziest display of bias I've ever seen!

You know, I was listening to the conversation and trying my best to stay interested, and then I hear European fighters and I'm like "**** it, I have no interest."

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Yes, because everything you say is so lazy, repetitive and moronic. "Jerk off"? You're the jerk off, pal. Lol, LMAO. Seriously - go somewhere else than this thread. Create your own called "let's call each other names while talking about Vitali." I used to think you were okay, but you're obviously a complete ****wit. LOL LMAO.

See what I mean.. sometimes you just can't help yourself

[AintGottaClue]

See what I mean.. sometimes you just can't help yourself

thank for bolding what he said, he bitches about name calling and look what he does


hey anorak

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Good point from Brooklyn about Vitali's speed, I meant to mention that. But I think the problem is, people like a hero (think of Ali vs. the formidable Foreman) and with Vitali's size he's in an impossible position. If he loses, people will think "how did he get beat by a little guy like that?"... if he wins, people will say he has all the advantages anyway.

One thing that bothers me...
I don't mean the below thoughts to be racist, or to offend anyone.
But everyone always refers to Klitschko's as "Giants". The reason they are so good is because of their size. If they were smaller they would be crushed.. etc.
Yes, those are all true statements. But how come their disadvantages are never taken into consideration.
It is a known fact that black people have better stamina, naturally more athletic, have better chins, don't get cut as easily, and last but not least breath easier due to bigger nostrils.
Do you think all that equates to size advantage?

I did a little statistics where I took Top 20 guys from Boxrec and averages their height and weight. Here are my findings below:

Vitali's Hight: +almost 4 inches above the competition
Vitali's Weight: +5.5lb above competition

Wlad's Hight: + almost 2.5 inches above competition
Wlad's Weight: -3.5lb above competition

Is that such a huge difference, especially in Wlad's case? He is only 2.5 inches taller on average than the rest. And is 3.5 pound lighter. Most of us are saying he should still drop 5-10 pounds. So are they really that much "bigger" and do they really have all that advantage everyone talks about?

Forgot to mention; I did the same statistics for our P4P King: Bernard Hopkins and his division.

Hopkins is also like Wlad is almost 2.5 inches above the rest in the division. (Weight of course is not a factor)
How come no one is saying "Hopkins is so good because of his size"?

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

There's a members lounge you can become a part of where you don't have to endure this name calling crap when you diss-agree?

I have some STRONG opinions, but I'm cool with that, and more cool when people throw their opinions at me!

I'm interested in what other knowledgable boxing fan have to say... (Mind you I have been known to get a little pissed off with American INSULER commemnts!.. LOL!...)

What's the room?

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Hey vdiary... One thing I've learnt from this website is not to "criticise" Bernard. Despite the fact that he only fight's people coming UP in weight. You want a blue-print of a BULLY... Start with Bernard Hopkins!

Vitali "IS" the heavyweight champion of the World... Anyone with reason in their head would see this!... Don't get wound up with crazy yanks "trying" to wind you up!... Forget it!

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Hey vdiary... One thing I've learnt from this website is not to "criticise" Bernard. Despite the fact that he only fight's people coming UP in weight. You want a blue-print of a BULLY... Start with Bernard Hopkins!

Vitali "IS" the heavyweight champion of the World... Anyone with reason in their head would see this!... Don't get wound up with crazy yanks "trying" to wind you up!... Forget it!

Thanks for all the advise..

But what I stated is not really about Klitschkos, or Hopkins.
It's about size and racial differences in fighters.

[Bozo_no no]

Who are you to say when Corries prime was? Corries prime was when he vs Vitali, that was the best performance he ever put up, and I've seen numerous amounts of his fights. A 40 Year old Corrie Sanders managed to do somethin that Byrd only dreams of, and thats knocking out the man who gave him the worst beating to date.

Corrie Sanders was ranked no.3 by Ring, and no.2 by WBC, thats by far better rankings than anyone Byrd faced, including his win over Tua.

Non sense. Pure drivel.

He was an inactive golfer who did nothing more than show than show Wlad could be easilly blitzed by a big puncher.

He never amounted to anything, and saying he was better than anyone Byrd ever faced is pure ignorant non sense.

He was a large hard hitting man who never capatilized on his talent, and lost to Rahman and Norris before blitzing Wlad.

In the ring, he was almost 40, and in horrendus shape vs Vitali.

Why do so many of you insist on kidding yourselves?

Corey Sanders is and was the very definition of a FRINGE CONTENDER.