The Klitschko Factor: Assessing Vitali

[Manny_P]

kidna off topic but this pic is funny

what???! you shoo u didn't photoshop that?

[AintGottaClue]

Maybe in his whole career, but against decent opponents its not more than %40, which trust me, is huge with the amount of punches that he throws.

did the math in his last 4 fight its 48.5

[ejk22]

what???! you shoo u didn't photoshop that?

That must have been taken when Lewis and Wladimir were filming Oceans eleven.

[Run]

Two sides to the coin here.

Ok. Its obvious there is somewhat of a split in opinions regarding Vitali Klitschko as the best heavyweight. Lets see if we can break this down:

1 side of the coin.

Includes the actual opposition faced. Vitali for the most part..has not beat very good competition. Nor has he faced complete bums in every outing. Granted: He has faced some really outgunned opponents...namely Mike Ackly. That was a disgrace to boxing...and should not be considered a real win on his behalf. He knocked the outgunned little man out with basically 1 punch, and it was not a hard one at that. I use that as an example of the weaker form of his opposition...because that is exactly what it was. On the other hand, he has beat competition that redeemed him. Namely Corrie Sanders....who defeated his brother. Danny Williams....who defeated Tyson (granted Tyson was washed up...he still put on a tremendous display of courage in taking punishment in the first round). Kirk Johnson...who was arguably one of the best heavyweights at the time they faced eachother....perhaps not by most boxing critics standards.

However...I heard someone say that VK has faced the same level of competition as Ruiz, and Byrd have faced. This is completely untrue. Both Ruiz and Byrd have beat better fighters than Vitali has. Ruiz has beat names like Oquendo, Golota, Holy, blah blah etc etc. Byrd has beat equally as good of opposition including Tua, Vitali himself, Mcline, and blah blah.

second side of the coin

It is perfectly understandable to rank Vitali as the best heavyweight out there. There is no secret that with his size, punching power, ring smarts, and reach.....he can beat just about anyone. And quite frankly everyone he faces should be considered the underdog untill proven otherwise. Basically it comes down to an aesthetic matter of fighter approval......and some people think he is the best in his division. More power too them. I personally think Jeff Lacy is the best fighter in his division....and many people laugh at that.



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[BrooklynBomber]

...... I personally think Jeff Lacy is the best fighter in his division....and many people laugh at that.

I thinks so too. IMO Lacy beats Calzagge and others. His will and punching power are something.

[Run]

I thinks so too. IMO Lacy beats Calzagge and others. His will and punching power are something.

Yeah they are. His tenacity is very interesting. One could only be impressed by the way he demolished the tank in Vanderpool...and the very, very game Rubin Williams. Those guys you just dont "knock out". Hence my reasoning in him knocking out the infamous "Robin Reid".



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[BrooklynBomber]

I dont get it, whats so infamous about Robin Reid. Is he some british fighter thats being hyped up by Limeys ala Williams and Eastman(and we know what happened to these bastards). Enlighten me somebody.

[Run]

I dont get it, whats so infamous about Robin Reid. Is he some british fighter thats being hyped up by Limeys ala Williams and Eastman(and we know what happened to these bastards). Enlighten me somebody.

Yeah....he is a limey. His most notable wins are the following:

Cherifi UD
JC vasquez UD

and that is about it. he went the distance with Sven Ottke....and lost....but who hasnt. LOL! Calzaghe he lost to as well.

He is going down in flames.

Vasquez as you know....is the guy who knocked Wright down 5 times in one fight.



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[BrooklynBomber]

Dont listen to Limeys, these guys made the next great champ out of Danny boy and middleweight monster out of Eastman. Look what happened to these 2 poor ****ers. Next thing they do is say that Hatton is the next Pryor and gonna be whippin on alltime greats like on some jouneymen bums. So dont listen to them cause Lacy is gonna put some real hurt on that Reid guy.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

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