PACMAN : Greatest fighter of the post-Hagler/Leonard/Duran era !!

[Oasis_Lad]

Name 1 good fighter with great footwork and ring generalship pac has fought...

We judge fighters on 'What have' not 'What if'

[jrosales13]

Another thing, All those fighters you mentioned never ordered catchweights or refused to be drug tested or fought for a fake "diamond" belt

Really? Chavez never fought at a catchweight? Whitaker never fought at a catchweight? Jones Jr never fought at a catchweight? Hopkins never fought at a catchweight? Mayweather Jr never fought at a catchweight?

Holyfield never fefused a drug test you right but "Evan Fields"

[jrosales13]

what about rehydration weight penalties on all the opponents hes fought past 135. do you think delahoya would have come in at 147 on fight night if their wasnt money issues? old tired greats is who manny fights... why didnt he ever fight zahir raheem? why didnt he fight casamayor? bradley or peterson? but if pac fought at catchweights for the rest of his career you woould defend him

Explain please...

[jrosales13]

Nope... Mosley Didn't beat Cotto. Mosley was tainted with Roids with the DLH fight. Pac dominates Cotto & DLH and makes Floyd shiver in fear. Pac is the Best welter currently.

I had Mosley-Cotto a draw... Shane WW victory over Oscar is not tainted at all. Only his rematch victory at JMW is... Shane beat the better WW version of Oscar than what Pac did...

If Pac beats Clottey Pac would be the #1 WW in MY rankings... But, Shane does also have a claim for the #1 spot...

[jrosales13]

Nobody will beat PAC @ 165 below. This is good for about at least 5 more years. True story..

165? How did you come up with that number?

[johncods]

Another thing, All those fighters you mentioned never ordered catchweights or refused to be drug tested or fought for a fake "diamond" belt

hopkins fought oscar at a catchweight. Floyd's was worse making a LW move up 2 divisions to fight him. You fail.

[General Zod]

You cant say this really. Because when pac did challenge himself, ie fighting hatton at 140 the same result happens. So if you think he has been carefully guided you are clutching at straws.
. He did get Cotto down to 145, because Pac may have been slightly worried about fighting a great 147 guy who had given everyone problems when he fought them. But really Pacs worry really wasnt justified. Pac would have beat him at 147 or 150

Evander Holyfield?
Roy Jones jr?

[yeks]

[Measy1749]

all i can give pac is he is the greatest featherweight in that period. im sorry, there are just wayyy too many fighters out there that deserve a lot more respect for their accomplishments than pac. pac has to fight the best, he hasnt. the same problem with floyd. until there is a winner between those two, pac isnt even ther greatest welter imo.

i mean come on, a fighter like bernard hopkins...that guy is over 40 and still on top. and look at his resume compared to pac. not even close.