PACMAN : Greatest fighter of the post-Hagler/Leonard/Duran era !!

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  • soyotoyapex
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    PACMAN : Greatest fighter of the post-Hagler/Leonard/Duran era !!

    * Since 2003, he’s 12-1 and has KO defeats of Hatton, De La Hoya, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera, and he has decision victories over Marquez and Barrera. Those are almost all of the best fighters anywhere near Pacquiao’s weight class in this era.

    This is while fighting at 126, 130, 140 and 147 pounds–all within the last two years, all fighting against most of the best fighters in those divisions. (Pacquiao started at 107 pounds, by the way.)

    Grand summary: This isn’t a great era for boxing, but there was an excellent batch of featherweights in the early 2000s (Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Pacquiao) and now a good crop of welterweights (Mayweather, Hatton… and Pacquiao again, and maybe Marquez again) and De La Hoya was the most famous.

    Pacquiao amazingly has spanned all three significant sectors of this boxing era, and been the best in each.

    * Pacquiao’s only loss over that period was a disputed unanimous decision to Morales in 2005, which Pacquiao avenged with a massive TKO 10 victory in 2006.

    * That’s the best resume, by far, of any current fighter, and it’s the only current resume that matches up with the busy-historic records of the greats of the ’70s and ’80s.

    * The only Great Fighter of this era that’s missing from his resume is Mayweather, but:


    -Pacquiao took out De La Hoya much more impressively than Mayweather’s split-decision victory in 2007 (should’ve been a clear unanimous-decision for Floyd, but wasn’t close to Pacquiao’s devastation of DLH.)

    -Pacquiao waltzed through Hatton, who took Mayweather into the 10th in 2007
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    Name 1 good fighter with great footwork and ring generalship pac has fought...

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    • hugh grant
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      Originally posted by soyotoyapex
      * Since 2003, he’s 12-1 and has KO defeats of Hatton, De La Hoya, Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera, and he has decision victories over Marquez and Barrera. Those are almost all of the best fighters anywhere near Pacquiao’s weight class in this era.

      This is while fighting at 126, 130, 140 and 147 pounds–all within the last two years, all fighting against most of the best fighters in those divisions. (Pacquiao started at 107 pounds, by the way.)

      Grand summary: This isn’t a great era for boxing, but there was an excellent batch of featherweights in the early 2000s (Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Pacquiao) and now a good crop of welterweights (Mayweather, Hatton… and Pacquiao again, and maybe Marquez again) and De La Hoya was the most famous.

      Pacquiao amazingly has spanned all three significant sectors of this boxing era, and been the best in each.

      * Pacquiao’s only loss over that period was a disputed unanimous decision to Morales in 2005, which Pacquiao avenged with a massive TKO 10 victory in 2006.

      * That’s the best resume, by far, of any current fighter, and it’s the only current resume that matches up with the busy-historic records of the greats of the ’70s and ’80s.

      * The only Great Fighter of this era that’s missing from his resume is Mayweather, but:


      -Pacquiao took out De La Hoya much more impressively than Mayweather’s split-decision victory in 2007 (should’ve been a clear unanimous-decision for Floyd, but wasn’t close to Pacquiao’s devastation of DLH.)

      -Pacquiao waltzed through Hatton, who took Mayweather into the 10th in 2007
      Lets face it some people will never say Pac is better than SRR. It is almost a crime to do so. But of the modern era Pac is the best. No boxer fighting today comes close to what Pac has done.
      Marvin Hagler never beat an equivalent of Pac beating Cotto. Marvin did well to stop Hearns, but if that fight went on any longer anthing could have happened. Pac just dominated Cotto basically from the off.

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        his career has been carefully guided, srr fought everybody without catchweights rehydration weights, and unheard of penalties to fighters who wont engage in his demands for a fight. thats the difference

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        • Rolling Stone
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          Bernard Hopkins??? Roy Jones Jr? Pernell Whitaker?? Lennox Lewis?? Julio Cesar Chavez?? Evander Holyfield?? Floyd Mayweather Jr??.......all these names have a claim

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            Originally posted by Rolling Stone
            Bernard Hopkins??? Roy Jones Jr? Pernell Whitaker?? Lennox Lewis?? Julio Cesar Chavez?? Evander Holyfield?? Floyd Mayweather Jr??.......all these names have a claim
            Another thing, All those fighters you mentioned never ordered catchweights or refused to be drug tested or fought for a fake "diamond" belt

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              Originally posted by ManniePhresh
              his career has been carefully guided, srr fought everybody without catchweights rehydration weights, and unheard of penalties to fighters who wont engage in his demands for a fight. thats the difference
              You cant say this really. Because when pac did challenge himself, ie fighting hatton at 140 the same result happens. So if you think he has been carefully guided you are clutching at straws.
              PBF carefully guided his own career more like it by fighting hatton at 147, and JMM at 147. Pac just fights. He did get Cotto down to 145, because Pac may have been slightly worried about fighting a great 147 guy who had given everyone problems when he fought them. But really Pacs worry really wasnt justified. Pac would have beat him at 147 or 150

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                Originally posted by hugh grant
                You cant say this really. Because when pac did challenge himself, ie fighting hatton at 140 the same result happens. So if you think he has been carefully guided you are clutching at straws.
                PBF carefully guided his own career more like it by fighting hatton at 147, and JMM at 147. Pac just fights. He did get Cotto down to 145, because Pac may have been slightly worried about fighting a great 147 guy who had given everyone problems when he fought them. But really Pacs worry really wasnt justified. Pac would have beat him at 147 or 150
                Challenged himself? Pacquiao fought alot of good fighters but nearly all of them were coming off losses. His career has been carefully guided by Freddie "****" Roach and Bob "The White Don King" Arum

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                  Don't suck on it too hard, you might choke to death.

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                  • ManniePhresh
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                    what about rehydration weight penalties on all the opponents hes fought past 135. do you think delahoya would have come in at 147 on fight night if their wasnt money issues? old tired greats is who manny fights... why didnt he ever fight zahir raheem? why didnt he fight casamayor? bradley or peterson? but if pac fought at catchweights for the rest of his career you woould defend him

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