Haye is a decent HW but come on people.

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  • MCVAGINA
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    #101
    Klitschko's obviously then guys like

    Povetkin
    Boytsov
    Solis
    Adamek
    Arreola
    Chambers
    Tua
    Chagaev

    could all possibly beat Haye imo, all of those guys have the power to KO Haye cold except Chambers although i wouldn't be suprised if he could hurt him too and obviously has more boxing ability.




    Good point, The thing I dont like about Haye is that he does more talking than fighting. I realise he does this so people take notice of him but it really does get annoying that he talks so much more than he fights. I really think he needs to fight someone like Povetkin before going into a big fight with Wlad or Vitali. I mean part of me thinks he just wants the money. If Haye fights Wladimir he will make loads of money even if he gets knocked out early. So I think he is holding out for that fight instead of fighting another up and coming HW.

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #102
      The guy is a serious threat at HW and has in impressive resume for only having 24 fights.

      He probably gets sparked by both K--bros but maybe if he lets Vit get older he can beat him on points now, and set up THEE HW fight Wlad/Haye.....though this may be just a dream.

      But he did with one shot badly hurt a man who outweighed him by 100lbs and had never been hurt like that before, so he has power and speed to go along with it.

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      • The_Demon
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        #103
        haye is a decent HW whos breathing some life into a stale division

        but then again,haters guna hate

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        • Pirao
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          #104
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          The guy is a serious threat at HW and has in impressive resume for only having 24 fights.

          He probably gets sparked by both K--bros but maybe if he lets Vit get older he can beat him on points now, and set up THEE HW fight Wlad/Haye.....though this may be just a dream.

          But he did with one shot badly hurt a man who outweighed him by 100lbs and had never been hurt like that before, so he has power and speed to go along with it.
          If Vitali really plans on retiring this year, I doubt Haye will fight him ever. Haye would not get anywhere near Vitali unless he was 40+ years old.

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          • samir191
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            #105
            I Used to be a Haye supporter, but finding out hes a suspect Battyman has changed that Completety...lol

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            • Joe2608
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              #106
              Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
              He didn't fight Cunningham so no. He won 2 belts from Mormeck, beat Macca and left the division without even defending the belts he had won.



              -Lebedev & Afolabi destroyed Enzo too.............

              - a 178 LB Zsolt Erdei beat Fragomeni..........

              - Clouser and Solis destroyed Barrett worse.

              - Close to a half dozen guys have done better vs Valuev than Haye did and didn't do it in a cowardly way. (Donald,Holy,Chagaev, *****ko,Ruiz)



              -*****ko who has a rep for being feather fisted stunned him & essentially had him out on his feet.

              -Barrett did too although not as bad a *****ko.



              Look Haye is exciting (most of the time) and has some good attributes in his handspeed and power but i think his accomplishments are often oversold. And with his chin he is by no means a sure bet at HW, even at CW.

              Klitschko's obviously then guys like

              Povetkin
              Boytsov
              Solis
              Adamek
              Arreola
              Chambers
              Tua
              Chagaev

              could all possibly beat Haye imo, all of those guys have the power to KO Haye cold except Chambers although i wouldn't be suprised if he could hurt him too and obviously has more boxing ability.

              Fans who act like he has no worthy adversaries outside of the Klitschko's are wrong. I also think he should prove himself by beating a couple legit HW's before ppl start acting like he could potentially be the man at HW and before he earns a shot at the brothers.
              The fact that you have included Chagaev and Solis in there shows that you just hate Haye and are not basing it on boxing ability. Come back and debate when you actually watch them fight and are ready to give Haye just a little bit of credit, he's young with just over 20 fights and he's unified Cruiserweight and won a Heavyweight title, after Ruiz he will fight a Klitschko. If he doesn't and there's no reason for him not to face them then yes you are free to criticize.

              I'd love to see him in the ring with some of those on your list to prove he is the goods to the haters. I really don't see what's special about that list at all. Most of those haven't even been anywhere near a world title and they've had more fights than Haye and been in the division for longer.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Joe2608
                The fact that you have included Chagaev and Solis in there shows that you just hate Haye and are not basing it on boxing ability. Come back and debate when you actually watch them fight and are ready to give Haye just a little bit of credit, he's young with just over 20 fights and he's unified Cruiserweight and won a Heavyweight title, after Ruiz he will fight a Klitschko. If he doesn't and there's no reason for him not to face them then yes you are free to criticize.

                I'd love to see him in the ring with some of those on your list to prove he is the goods to the haters. I really don't see what's special about that list at all. Most of those haven't even been anywhere near a world title and they've had more fights than Haye and been in the division for longer.
                Solis put a beating on Haye in the Ams.

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                • Pirao
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Joe2608
                  The fact that you have included Chagaev and Solis in there shows that you just hate Haye and are not basing it on boxing ability. Come back and debate when you actually watch them fight and are ready to give Haye just a little bit of credit, he's young with just over 20 fights and he's unified Cruiserweight and won a Heavyweight title, after Ruiz he will fight a Klitschko. If he doesn't and there's no reason for him not to face them then yes you are free to criticize.

                  I'd love to see him in the ring with some of those on your list to prove he is the goods to the haters. I really don't see what's special about that list at all. Most of those haven't even been anywhere near a world title and they've had more fights than Haye and been in the division for longer.
                  And why is that exactly? Why can't Solis and Chagaev beat Haye?

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                  • Khmelnytsky
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by samir191
                    I Used to be a Haye supporter, but finding out hes a suspect Battyman has changed that Completety...lol
                    lol

                    Originally posted by Joe2608
                    The fact that you have included Chagaev and Solis in there shows that you just hate Haye and are not basing it on boxing ability. Come back and debate when you actually watch them fight and are ready to give Haye just a little bit of credit, he's young with just over 20 fights and he's unified Cruiserweight and won a Heavyweight title, after Ruiz he will fight a Klitschko. If he doesn't and there's no reason for him not to face them then yes you are free to criticize.

                    I'd love to see him in the ring with some of those on your list to prove he is the goods to the haters. I really don't see what's special about that list at all. Most of those haven't even been anywhere near a world title and they've had more fights than Haye and been in the division for longer.
                    lol really. No what it shows is that you're a diehard Haye fan and that Chagaev & Solis were the only thing that you could manage to try and nit-pick about in order to save your ridiculous bulletproof perception of Haye.

                    it is fair to include them.

                    Chagaev would be more than capable of challenging Haye. The only question is how much Ruslan has left, that would be fair to speculate about.

                    Solis beat him in the Am's, has better boxing skill, & a punch to KO him. Comparing their recent showings vs Barrett, Solis destroyed Barrett worse (and didn't get hurt himself like Haye did) so its more than fair.

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                    • BritishBoxing92
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      His claim to fame is beating Valuev in a close fight. If you people do not remember Holyfield beat Valuev a lot more convincingly than Haye did. Valuev just ******, and Hayes fight with him was a lot closer than Holyfields fight.
                      we cant do anything about it now im afraid...lets just hope haye fights one of the klitchskos to make a good fight in the HW division...

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