Haye is a decent HW but come on people.

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  • Left Banned Tua
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    #91
    Originally posted by Kilrain
    Who was hyping it up as a great win? I simply stated beating Valuev wasn't all he'd done at HW. Which is true.

    Don't see how you can call a multiple cruiserweight world champion who stepped up and fought the biggest mother ever in his own backyard- for a portion of the HW championship - a joke. But to each his own. Haye will aim to fight one of the Klitschkos after Ruiz. Aint got no chance in hell? What are you smoking? He has a good chance against Wladimir, who has already been exposed for having a weak chin. He has a chance against Vitali too, if he can use his vastly superior athleticism and quickness. The Klitschkos are very effective, but they're mechanical as hell, especially VK
    whatever.

    haye is a joke until proven otherwise.

    the only way he beats wlad and vitali is if they're completely shot.

    which might be what haye is waiting for.



    don't even bring up wlad's chin.

    wlad didn't get knocked on his ass by a blown up super middleweight.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Puft Daddy
      fine.

      then haye fans shouldn't hype it up as some sort of great win.

      barrett has been knocked out by what a dozen other guys?

      "haye looked so impressive against barrett."


      haye is a joke to me until proven otherwise.

      even haye knows he's a joke.

      that's why he's gonna wait as long as possible before fighting the klitschkos.

      even though both wlad and vit are past prime , haye knows he still ain't got no chance in hell.
      How the **** is Wlad past prime? He's looked better than ever in his last few fights.

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      • Chrismart
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        #93
        Haye's an exciting fighter, has great knock-out power, and is a little vunerable with his chin, so always makes for exciting viewing.
        His fight against Valuev was boring but he had a game plan which enabled him to beat a hard fighter to look good against, and also rocked him near the end of the fight.

        I think he can pretty much beats most of the heavyweights out there at the minute. The only Heavyweights ranked higher than him by the Ring magazine are : Chagaev, Chambers, Povetkin and the Klitschko's.
        He beats the first 3 names in my opinion (and also beats Arreola). It's the Klitschko's who dominate the division and will be the real acid test for Haye.

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        • Joe2608
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          #94
          Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.

          Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.

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            #95
            I think a the issue of Haye's chin is blown out of proportion - gotta remember that he was totally punched out against Thompson, was struggling to make weight against Mormeck, and was a bit gung ho against Barrett. He did get clipped by Valuev a few times and never looked hurt or rattled.

            I also think that if he didn't break his hand early in the fight against Valuev, he would have knocked him out before round 12, and people would have been far more impressed with his performance. Still, when somebody has a head that big and hard, a broken hand is always on the cards.

            There are a lot of Haye haters here though it seems. Then again, there's a lot of [Any Boxer] haters here.

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              #96
              Originally posted by street bully jr
              Haye is a good fighter. Are you worried about him and Hopkins?

              Haye would end Hopkins career imo.
              What the **** does Pop Shotkins have to do with this? Haye is just a big **** talker who can't deliver the goods whatsoever.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Joe2608
                Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.

                Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.
                Haye can't even beat Ruiz which is going to be clear on fight night.

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                  #98
                  I am british.

                  Haye is a good strong fight but a top level opponent will school him.

                  This is why he is waiting for the Klitschko's to get even older before he fights them. He just talks so much to get attention but really he should back it up. He made all these comments that he was going to be this new exciting heavyweight then ran for 12 rounds against Valuev.

                  Wladamir, Vitali, Hopkins. Would all take Haye to school

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Six Shooter
                    His claim to fame is beating Valuev? Not being the unified CW champion, Heavyweight title holder and his great power and speed?
                    He didn't fight Cunningham so no. He won 2 belts from Mormeck, beat Macca and left the division without even defending the belts he had won.

                    Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                    He's also known for knocking out Jean-Marc-Mormec in his home town.

                    And making sure all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put Enzo's chin back together again. Getting rid of Fragomeni too.

                    He's had a silver medal as an amateur at the world championships, held the WBC,WBA, and WBO at Cruiserweight.

                    Had two real fights at heavyweight in which he has beaten an old gatekeeper in Monte Barrett and claimed a world title against a limited but massive champion.

                    He's done all this (aside from his world championship medal, obviously) in 23 fights.

                    Sorry, but Haye is pretty hard to discredit.

                    He's not done badly.
                    -Lebedev & Afolabi destroyed Enzo too.............

                    - a 178 LB Zsolt Erdei beat Fragomeni..........

                    - Clouser and Solis destroyed Barrett worse.

                    - Close to a half dozen guys have done better vs Valuev than Haye did and didn't do it in a cowardly way. (Donald,Holy,Chagaev, *****ko,Ruiz)

                    Originally posted by Loccy
                    He hurt the freak, Holyfield did no such thing.
                    -*****ko who has a rep for being feather fisted stunned him & essentially had him out on his feet.

                    -Barrett did too although not as bad a *****ko.

                    Originally posted by Joe2608
                    Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.

                    Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.
                    Look Haye is exciting (most of the time) and has some good attributes in his handspeed and power but i think his accomplishments are often oversold. And with his chin he is by no means a sure bet at HW, even at CW.

                    Klitschko's obviously then guys like

                    Povetkin
                    Boytsov
                    Solis
                    Adamek
                    Arreola
                    Chambers
                    Tua
                    Chagaev

                    could all possibly beat Haye imo, all of those guys have the power to KO Haye cold except Chambers although i wouldn't be suprised if he could hurt him too and obviously has more boxing ability.

                    Fans who act like he has no worthy adversaries outside of the Klitschko's are wrong. I also think he should prove himself by beating a couple legit HW's before ppl start acting like he could potentially be the man at HW and before he earns a shot at the brothers.
                    Last edited by Khmelnytsky; 02-22-2010, 10:16 AM.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Joe2608
                      Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.

                      Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.
                      This is a joke, right? Haye has decent speed but not terrific speed, WTF.

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