Haye is a decent HW but come on people.
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How the **** is Wlad past prime? He's looked better than ever in his last few fights.fine.
then haye fans shouldn't hype it up as some sort of great win.
barrett has been knocked out by what a dozen other guys?
"haye looked so impressive against barrett."
haye is a joke to me until proven otherwise.
even haye knows he's a joke.
that's why he's gonna wait as long as possible before fighting the klitschkos.
even though both wlad and vit are past prime , haye knows he still ain't got no chance in hell.Comment
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Haye's an exciting fighter, has great knock-out power, and is a little vunerable with his chin, so always makes for exciting viewing.
His fight against Valuev was boring but he had a game plan which enabled him to beat a hard fighter to look good against, and also rocked him near the end of the fight.
I think he can pretty much beats most of the heavyweights out there at the minute. The only Heavyweights ranked higher than him by the Ring magazine are : Chagaev, Chambers, Povetkin and the Klitschko's.
He beats the first 3 names in my opinion (and also beats Arreola). It's the Klitschko's who dominate the division and will be the real acid test for Haye.Comment
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Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.
Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.Comment
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I think a the issue of Haye's chin is blown out of proportion - gotta remember that he was totally punched out against Thompson, was struggling to make weight against Mormeck, and was a bit gung ho against Barrett. He did get clipped by Valuev a few times and never looked hurt or rattled.
I also think that if he didn't break his hand early in the fight against Valuev, he would have knocked him out before round 12, and people would have been far more impressed with his performance. Still, when somebody has a head that big and hard, a broken hand is always on the cards.
There are a lot of Haye haters here though it seems. Then again, there's a lot of [Any Boxer] haters here.Comment
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Haye can't even beat Ruiz which is going to be clear on fight night.Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.
Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.Comment
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I am british.
Haye is a good strong fight but a top level opponent will school him.
This is why he is waiting for the Klitschko's to get even older before he fights them. He just talks so much to get attention but really he should back it up. He made all these comments that he was going to be this new exciting heavyweight then ran for 12 rounds against Valuev.
Wladamir, Vitali, Hopkins. Would all take Haye to schoolComment
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He didn't fight Cunningham so no. He won 2 belts from Mormeck, beat Macca and left the division without even defending the belts he had won.
-Lebedev & Afolabi destroyed Enzo too.............He's also known for knocking out Jean-Marc-Mormec in his home town.
And making sure all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put Enzo's chin back together again. Getting rid of Fragomeni too.
He's had a silver medal as an amateur at the world championships, held the WBC,WBA, and WBO at Cruiserweight.
Had two real fights at heavyweight in which he has beaten an old gatekeeper in Monte Barrett and claimed a world title against a limited but massive champion.
He's done all this (aside from his world championship medal, obviously) in 23 fights.
Sorry, but Haye is pretty hard to discredit.
He's not done badly.
- a 178 LB Zsolt Erdei beat Fragomeni..........
- Clouser and Solis destroyed Barrett worse.
- Close to a half dozen guys have done better vs Valuev than Haye did and didn't do it in a cowardly way. (Donald,Holy,Chagaev, *****ko,Ruiz)
-*****ko who has a rep for being feather fisted stunned him & essentially had him out on his feet.
-Barrett did too although not as bad a *****ko.
Look Haye is exciting (most of the time) and has some good attributes in his handspeed and power but i think his accomplishments are often oversold. And with his chin he is by no means a sure bet at HW, even at CW.Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.
Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.
Klitschko's obviously then guys like
Povetkin
Boytsov
Solis
Adamek
Arreola
Chambers
Tua
Chagaev
could all possibly beat Haye imo, all of those guys have the power to KO Haye cold except Chambers although i wouldn't be suprised if he could hurt him too and obviously has more boxing ability.
Fans who act like he has no worthy adversaries outside of the Klitschko's are wrong. I also think he should prove himself by beating a couple legit HW's before ppl start acting like he could potentially be the man at HW and before he earns a shot at the brothers.Last edited by Khmelnytsky; 02-22-2010, 10:16 AM.Comment
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This is a joke, right? Haye has decent speed but not terrific speed, WTF.Only the Klitschko's pose a threat to Haye imo. The rest are too slow and their skill level is not as high as Haye's. His combination of terrific speed and huge power is enough to beat anyone in the division.
Personally i think he beats the likes of Arreola, Adamek and Povetkin. Though i can see him struggling against a Klitschko.Comment
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