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  • DonTaseMeBrah
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    #71
    Originally posted by M.I.C.
    The 1st fight with Barrera Pac gets all props, but that was before Pac himself was rated P4P. Since he has been in the P4P listings he has fought no top P4P fighters but Marquez. Everyone else was just big names, former greats, but not currently great.
    do you just revel in being wrong? pac vs marquez 2, marquez was top 10 p4p. hatton was top 10 p4p when pac fought him, cotto was top 10 p4p when pac fought him. hell even pac vs em 2, morales was top 10 p4p.

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      #72
      Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
      do you just revel in being wrong? pac vs marquez 2, marquez was top 10 p4p. hatton was top 10 p4p when pac fought him, cotto was top 10 p4p when pac fought him. hell even pac vs em 2, morales was top 10 p4p.
      Was Morales still P4P ranked after the Raheem fiasco? I would have a hard time keeping him on the list after being decisively shut out.

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        #73
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Was Morales still P4P ranked after the Raheem fiasco? I would have a hard time keeping him on the list after being decisively shut out.
        He sure was. #6 p4p according to ring magazine;

        http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s

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          #74
          Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
          He sure was. #6 p4p according to ring magazine;

          http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s
          Jesus... that's absurd. I would have never guessed.

          It's hard to think of a fight where a top fighter was more embarrassed and shut down for 12 rounds.

          Maybe Forrest-Mosley I, but not too many make the list.

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            #75
            JMM was p4p when PACQUIAO beat him.

            Cotto was top 10 p4p.

            Mab was top 10 p4p when Pacquiao killed him.

            Hatton was top 10 p4p when Pacquiao killed him.

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              #76
              Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
              do you just revel in being wrong? pac vs marquez 2, marquez was top 10 p4p. hatton was top 10 p4p when pac fought him, cotto was top 10 p4p when pac fought him. hell even pac vs em 2, morales was top 10 p4p.
              10-20 maybe

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                #77
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                Jesus... that's absurd. I would have never guessed.

                It's hard to think of a fight where a top fighter was more embarrassed and shut down for 12 rounds.

                Maybe Forrest-Mosley I, but not too many make the list.
                Originally posted by M.I.C.
                10-20 maybe
                its not a maybe, he was top 10 p4p when pac beat him.

                morales was entrenched in the top 10 p4p rankings & only lost to MAB a fellow p4p fighter, when he beat pacquiao. Beating pacquiao, a budding great fighter at that time kept him in the top 10 p4p. the raheem lost did not drop him from the top because it was attributed to morales testing 135 & basically a tune up fight for pac vs em2. This is why i dont get people saying pac ducked raheem. pac vs velasquez took place on the same card as morales vs raheem in la. Raheem was nowhere near morales in standing, stature, or money. Add the fact that morales beat pac, the rematch had to happen even though em lost to raheem.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  Jesus... that's absurd. I would have never guessed.

                  It's hard to think of a fight where a top fighter was more embarrassed and shut down for 12 rounds.

                  Maybe Forrest-Mosley I, but not too many make the list.
                  Yes...I was disgusted by the way Raheem got crapped on. He beat the **** out of Morales and then Pacquiao pretended it never happened. Even worse, they actually convinced people to watching a THIRD match! Good Lord.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
                    its not a maybe, he was top 10 p4p when pac beat him.

                    morales was entrenched in the top 10 p4p rankings & only lost to MAB a fellow p4p fighter, when he beat pacquiao. Beating pacquiao, a budding great fighter at that time kept him in the top 10 p4p. the raheem lost did not drop him from the top because it was attributed to morales testing 135 & basically a tune up fight for pac vs em2. This is why i dont get people saying pac ducked raheem. pac vs velasquez took place on the same card as morales vs raheem in la. Raheem was nowhere near morales in standing, stature, or money. Add the fact that morales beat pac, the rematch had to happen even though em lost to raheem.
                    Yeah, Pacquiao ducking Raheem makes 0 sense to me. Pacquiao hadn't fought at 135 and wouldn't go up there until 2008. Raheem had already fallen off by that point.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah
                      its not a maybe, he was top 10 p4p when pac beat him.

                      morales was entrenched in the top 10 p4p rankings & only lost to MAB a fellow p4p fighter, when he beat pacquiao. Beating pacquiao, a budding great fighter at that time kept him in the top 10 p4p. the raheem lost did not drop him from the top because it was attributed to morales testing 135 & basically a tune up fight for pac vs em2. This is why i dont get people saying pac ducked raheem. pac vs velasquez took place on the same card as morales vs raheem in la. Raheem was nowhere near morales in standing, stature, or money. Add the fact that morales beat pac, the rematch had to happen even though em lost to raheem.
                      At the time there are very few who believed Pac could beat Raheem, but everybody knew after that performance that he could beat Morales. Pac vs Morales 2 and 3 was a disgrace. Pac vs Barrera 2 was a disgrace. I say that in light that so many of you call May-Marquez a disgrace. I can keep going, Pac-Diaz was a disgrace.

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