How Do You Look At Trinidad Now?

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  • scap
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    #31
    He is no doubt a hall of famer, hell his title fight experience is incredible and certainly stands out!

    However...


    Tito is not nearly as great as many especially those on the island think he is...the guy can't beat a great fighter that knows a thing or two in the ring...his power is completely disconnected whenever he faces a boxer with good skills.

    To loose every ****ing round to Winky says a lot...sure he is a hall of famer but he can never be considered one of the great fighters of all time because of his serious limitations in the ring.

    Winky and Bernard owe Oscar some royalties because he was the first to really expose a kink in Tito's armor...they just completed what Hoya started.

    Tito is a sure fire hall of famer and one of the best punchers I have ever seen but he is far too limited to ever be in the upper level of elite fighters...had to be a sad day for all Puerto Rican's...I had a couple over at my house for the fight and they were completely ****ing devastated...

    It was funny, these two guys I had at my house were scoring the fight looking for something, anyting to give a round for Tito, one of them had it 5-3 for Wright after 8....

    I have said this before and I will say this right now....Miguel Cotto is a much better fighter than Tito at this point in their respective careers-he is much more of a complete fighter than Tito was at their respective stages, he is not nearly as one dimensional and I think that over time he may emerge as the better fighter historically, that is if Miguel can beat up on guys his own size...the fact that he outweighs allof his opponents by a good margin may spell trouble when he can no longer cut it at 140.

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    • Moon
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Fix
      i dont know about either, hopkins is still a great fighter and winky would have a lot of problems with b-hops style. jermain taylor is reall big for a middle and winky just came up from 154 so the size advantage might be too great.
      All true. However, I see Taylor as very hittable. If you are Winky Wright, that means keeping yourself away from Lacy's big hook. Lacey can train all he wants against the Winky style, but he doesn't have the experience yet to execute when faced with a truly stiff long-distance southpaw jab. Lacey's team can find all the great sparring partners to prepare him well, but he'd still be surprised by Wright's accuracy and heaviness.

      If I had to choose somebody at Middle to beat Wright, it must be Hopkins because he has the savvy and experience to "find a way". But Hopkins won't.

      Also, looking at Tito alone, Hopkins' display agaianst the Puerto Rican was nothing like the total domination we saw this past weekend.

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      • rge
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        #33
        Originally posted by spinksjinx
        Cotto did NOT demolish Corley, I had Corley ahead and it was a premature rigged stoppage.

        Smacking around former 130-135 pounders do not make you the best.
        I agree, Cotto wasn't good at that fight, consider Ivan Calderon from Puert Rico is undefeated and better technically, but a bit boring, since he has few ko.

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        • rge
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          #34
          Winky went up in weight for this fight. Winky was the underdog for most (not for me). People should separate fanatism with reality, one thing is that you like to see Tito, other thing is say he win against everybody (he lost to three boxers, officially to two). he also fougth agains past prime Pernell and Camacho. Tito says he may go to suppermiddleweight or even lightheavyweight. He's a dreamer, in this picture on the URL you see that he has some fat at the waist, not like Winky. Imagine him at 168, with power punchers like Lacy, all that fat won't help. He should stay at 154 or below. In the picture, you also see he is insecure: he is looking with that face at Winky, while Winky doesn't need all these things, just box. http://sports.yahoo.com/box/photo?sl...5&prov=reuters Only Winky advantages are that he began at 150lbs, Tito at 140lbs, and theat Tito left the ring for 29 months.

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