How Do You Look At Trinidad Now?

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  • Moon
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    #11
    Based on the Winky fight, I'd rank him low as a Middleweight. Winky is also not the new Middleweight star, simply because he beat Tito.

    I've always regarded Tito as being one-dimensional, but never expected Winky to make him look so bad. It was like Hopkins all over gain, except replace Hopkins' hugs with more Winky jabs.

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #12
      I'm torn between seeing him work on his boxing skills, moving up to face Lacy, or retiring. I dont understand how he can get dominated twice, maybe he lost his passion, maybe he is conceded, I feel he should of done abit better from what I hear, it all depends on his determination, if its not there do yourself a favor and retire, he is as before, a great fighter, you cant take away his hard earned record, he just had potentional to be even better, weither this is his end is up to him.

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      • Manny_P
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        #13
        A lost like this will damage Trinidad mentally! If he fights again, he might not be so hyped up and he might lose. It's hard to come back from a loss. Maybe a tune up fight first before going against the top dawgs?

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        • Moon
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Truth
          .... can't watch fighter with no defense. I must admit after the Mayorga fight I did think Trinidad was back.
          I don't mind watching guys with no defense, as long as they have chin and are taggin' the other guy.

          You must not have enjoyed Tito-Mayorga then, since both guys are defensively weak. Mayorga being the far weaker though. Not for one moment did I think Tito's success against Mayorga was his second-coming. Tito showed a good chin, but he was hit way too much. Also, Tito looked good only because he had the faster harder hands and a guy with no defensive skills standing right in front of him, all night long.

          I expected Winky to beat Tito, based partly on his performance against Mayorga, but also his one-sided loss to the other Middle slickster. Winky was to Tito what Tito was to Matorga. Meaning, Winky had the better defense and also the quicker hands. Winky never let Tito get set up once, all night. Tito was great and is now sliding. Let's hope he retires, so we don't have to see anything close to that display agaian.

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          • Truth
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            #15
            Originally posted by Munn
            I don't mind watching guys with no defense, as long as they have chin and are taggin' the other guy.

            You must not have enjoyed Tito-Mayorga then, since both guys are defensively weak. Mayorga being the far weaker though. Not for one moment did I think Tito's success against Mayorga was his second-coming. Tito showed a good chin, but he was hit way too much. Also, Tito looked good only because he had the faster harder hands and a guy with no defensive skills standing right in front of him, all night long.
            No I loved Trinidad vs. Mayorga, but usually I like more tactical fighters.

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            • spinksjinx
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              #16
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              I'm torn between seeing him work on his boxing skills, moving up to face Lacy, or retiring. I dont understand how he can get dominated twice, maybe he lost his passion, maybe he is conceded, I feel he should of done abit better from what I hear, it all depends on his determination, if its not there do yourself a favor and retire, he is as before, a great fighter, you cant take away his hard earned record, he just had potentional to be even better, weither this is his end is up to him.

              Retirement would probably be the best at this point.

              I am certainly not taking anything away from Tito and I dont believe this fight takes away from his legacy. I cant believe some of the **** talking tito is receiving are all of the people forgetting the fact that before he retired his resume looked like this.

              William Joppy
              Fernando Vargas
              David Reid
              Oscar De la Hoya
              Hugo Pineda
              Pernell Whitaker
              Oba Carr
              Yori Boy Campas
              Hector Camacho

              That is a hall of fame record right there alone, show Tito respect.

              The only thing Tito lost in this fight was his aura, his legacy and respect is still intact.

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              • Truth
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                #17
                Originally posted by spinksjinx
                Retirement would probably be the best at this point.

                I am certainly not taking anything away from Tito and I dont believe this fight takes away from his legacy. I cant believe some of the **** talking tito is receiving are all of the people forgetting the fact that before he retired his resume looked like this.

                William Joppy
                Fernando Vargas
                David Reid
                Oscar De la Hoya
                Hugo Pineda
                Pernell Whitaker
                Oba Carr
                Yori Boy Campas
                Hector Camacho

                That is a hall of fame record right there alone, show Tito respect.

                The only thing Tito lost in this fight was his aura, his legacy and respect is still intact.
                He deserves respect without a doubt, I just favor more of the slicksters rather than the big punchers. I have seen a couple Tito fights before this one and I guess his power made me look past his defense. I don't like fighters who come forward and walk right into jabs.

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                • Santo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by spinksjinx
                  Retirement would probably be the best at this point.

                  I am certainly not taking anything away from Tito and I dont believe this fight takes away from his legacy. I cant believe some of the **** talking tito is receiving are all of the people forgetting the fact that before he retired his resume looked like this.

                  William Joppy
                  Fernando Vargas
                  David Reid
                  Oscar De la Hoya
                  Hugo Pineda
                  Pernell Whitaker
                  Oba Carr
                  Yori Boy Campas
                  Hector Camacho

                  That is a hall of fame record right there alone, show Tito respect.

                  The only thing Tito lost in this fight was his aura, his legacy and respect is still intact.
                  Well ****in said.

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                  • The Fix
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                    #19
                    tito aint done he can still do some damage, he will always have problems with slick boxers like wright. tito is one dimensional but he can still beat most middles out there. hopkins no, wright no but i can def see tito beating sturm. maybe he could move up to 168 and fight lacy or calzaghe.

                    wright has a future at middle, i would love to see what he could do against hopkins/taylor.

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                    • sgtheny
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                      #20
                      i think he still has one good fight left in him. a rematch would be pimp but winky is one of the better fighters out there so he will still have to work harder to have a chance of beating him.

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