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  • mauers
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    #41
    I have no doubt at all. There's no solid proof Pac's not clean.

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    • M.I.C.
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      #42
      42-9 Poll, This is onesided like Mayweather's post fight statistics

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      • AllEyesOpen
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        #43
        Originally posted by mauers
        I have no doubt at all. There's no solid proof Pac's not clean.
        I wish i had such blind faith, it just doesn't make sense to me.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #44
          Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
          Are those the thoughts that keep you up at night?
          nah, its a common ***** fantasy

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          • Pullcounter
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            #45
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            I wish i had such blind faith, it just doesn't make sense to me.
            I usually like to have real proof before I accuse someone of using steroids

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            • AnthalaX
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              #46
              I'm a pacfan and i did DOUBT...

              But it was just doubt, not a proven fact...

              I just don't like it that Manny is already branded a cheater.. when the best thing for the sport is that he really should not be..

              there are also many reasons as to why Manny can refuse blood testing. e.g - effects on Morales fight, not playing by Floyd's rules, Arum's bad blood with GBP, outside NASC protocols... stuff like that...

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              • AllEyesOpen
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                #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                I usually like to have real proof before I accuse someone of using steroids
                I'm not accusing anyone, i just have common sense that doesn't allow me to accept Pacquiao's actions without wondering what the **** is going on.




                Originally posted by AnthalaX
                I'm a pacfan and i did DOUBT...

                But it was just doubt, not a proven fact...

                I just don't like it that Manny is already branded a cheater.. when the best thing for the sport is that he really should not be..

                there are also many reasons as to why Manny can refuse blood testing. e.g - effects on Morales fight, not playing by Floyd's rules, Arum's bad blood with GBP, outside NASC protocols... stuff like that...
                I guess for me those reasons don't justify making a decision that has put Pac in a compromising position, no one would question or accuse Pacquiao if he had just said "I'm clean, i'll take the tests".

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                • AnthalaX
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                  #48
                  I think Pac is in a very compromised position here in the Boxingscene forums and for hardcore fans and analysts alike..
                  But I think Most people who watch boxing or casual fans who buy the PPVs and stuff still don't see Pacquiao in a different way...
                  Hell, just look how many hollywood celebrities come to his training camp...
                  with all doubts around Pac is still intact when it comes to his legacy.

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                  • The Great Shark
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                    #49
                    This is what we've been talking about, its not so much about the allegations but more so the way Pacquiao and camp handle themselves.

                    They rather let their ego's get in the way of their innocence, instead of proving Mayweather and his camp wrong about the allegations. It's some of the biggest bull**** since the Margarito scandal and just leaves a those on the fence about the situation with more doubt as days pass by.

                    It's pointless for him to take the tests because had he used PED's, steroids, HGH's, etc, he may already have cycled all of that junk out by now.

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                    • AllEyesOpen
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                      #50
                      Bump.

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