why didn't PAC implement the same weight penalty on clottey?

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  • shogunn
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    #91
    Originally posted by Horus
    Read it again, it the fine would have to be unprecedented, and excessive then it would be ok.

    Do you understand the meaning of unprecedented???

    Pacquiao ask for something unheard of in boxing at the time with Mayweather.
    Why isnt he doing the same with Clottey???

    Do you understand?

    Why isnt his fine unprecedented?

    Thanks
    haha, wow, bolding 1 word doesnt make your point any more clearer. Do the math genius.

    What is unprecedented is the PURSE. they are rumored to make 50 million, EACH. now, that is unprecedented (your favorite word). when you are making 50 million, you should keep the same purse penalty? 100,000 per lb penalty on a 50 million purse? Again do the math genius, and tell me how that makes any sense at all.

    Talk numbers, manny was asking for 20% per lb penalty. Both of them couldve been making more, as Ive read that wasnt including PPV bonuses.

    Even if floyd came in 1 lb overweight, he'd still make 40+ million, an unprecedented amount of money.


    Now, to the original point. If Clottey comes in 1lb overweight, would you expect him to pay 10 million per lbs considering his purse? Please dont bold any random words in your response , it doesnt get your point across.

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    • dcopo1
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      #92
      Originally posted by shogunn
      dumbass..your math doesnt add up. Floyd was looking to make 50 million vs Manny, not 30. 10 million of 50 million is 20%.

      And clottey paying $200,000 per lb penalty on a 1 million purse is equiavalent to Floyd paying 10 million for 50 million. Idiot.
      DUMBO

      we don't know how much mayweather was going to make in the fight. we can only start at 25 million (hints pac not wanting to take a 25 million dollar drug test DUMB ****)

      so by these terms mayweather will make around 30 mil. he will have to pay 10 mil per pound. 3 pounds is ALL of his money. the same if u were to implement a weight penalty for clottey and make it the equivalent to mayweathers.

      OWNEEEEEEEEND DUMMY. U HAVE BEEN OWNED.

      Last edited by dcopo1; 02-15-2010, 07:31 PM.

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      • shogunn
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        #93
        Originally posted by dcopo1
        DUMBO

        we don't know how much mayweather was going to make in the fight. we can only start at 25 million (hints pac not wanting to take a 25 million dollar drug test DUMB ****)

        so by these terms mayweather will make around 30 mil. he will have to pay 10 mil per pound. 3 pounds is ALL of his money. the same if u were to implement a weight penalty for clottey such as the 1 that's the equivalent to mayweathers.

        OWNEEEEEEEEND DUMMY. U HAVE BEEN OWNED.


        no idiot, you cant say he's only going to make 30 million, when its 50. Its only convenient for you to do that.

        And if Clottey came in 3lbs overweight, that would be 60000 on a 1 million purse. Again, do the math.

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        • Horus
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          #94
          Originally posted by shogunn
          haha, wow, bolding 1 word doesnt make your point any more clearer. Do the math genius.

          What is unprecedented is the PURSE. they are rumored to make 50 million, EACH. now, that is unprecedented (your favorite word). when you are making 50 million, you should keep the same purse penalty? 100,000 per lb penalty on a 50 million purse? Again do the math genius, and tell me how that makes any sense at all.

          Talk numbers, manny was asking for 20% per lb penalty. Both of them couldve been making more, as Ive read that wasnt including PPV bonuses.

          Even if floyd came in 1 lb overweight, he'd still make 40+ million, an unprecedented amount of money.


          Now, to the original point. If Clottey comes in 1lb overweight, would you expect him to pay 10 million per lbs considering his purse? Please dont bold any random words in your response , it doesnt get your point across.
          You are avoiding the question like white people avoid the N word.

          The question is real simple,

          if Clottey came overweight would his penalty be something boxing has never seen before making his penalty unprecedented like it was with mayweather?

          YES OR NO?

          Meaning if he came overweight, would the response be, "Clottey is about to face a penalty never seen before in the sport of boxing"?

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          • Schmerzen
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            #95
            pacquiao should do more PPV numbers than floyd first, before adding extra not by the boxing commission required rules to the contract.
            the punk was thinking he is the bigger draw lol

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            • Lucky Luciano
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              #96
              Originally posted by $iCaRiO
              this fight is a setup, Clottey is getting paid to lose
              Fa sho.............

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                #97
                Originally posted by AssasinKing
                He didnt, but he came in over 145 (the deal for the catchweight) against a lightweight oponent fighting his first match at Welterweight...thats just a ***** thing to do

                Mayweather is the hardest or 1 of the fights there for pac, why are you acting as if pac should just take him easy?

                What do you want people to say, yes mayweather is the hardest, we know that, thus why pac wont give him any advantage, same for mayweather wouldnt give pac any advantage....

                Just because he agreed to pacs terms? Who is to say he didnt want them conditions anyway? If mayweather wanted any other conditions we would of knew about it......Hes just playing on it as if he didnt want what pac wanted, so he could use it to say, ok i accepted your conditions (even tho i didnt want them) now you accept mine..

                He knew pac wouldnt agree to the testing that close to the fight....and even if pac did agree....HE STILL would of found out another way to duck him...

                Like how now hes saying he wont take 50/50 if he draws more then pac vs clottey with shane....

                He constantly contradicts himself.... "Who would turn down 20 million" he says.... WELL hes the fkin 1 thats gonna do it next
                Originally posted by Ray`

                This is what i dont get, How would Mayweather or anyone else know Pac wouldnt accept testing for the fight??? Because according to Team Pac testing was known about from the beginning and they had NO problem with it.

                So how would anyone know the testing would become a big deal???



                ^^ good post by Ray.


                As for the other post......do you actually know team Pac was informed of the random testing clause in December?

                Initially they said it would be no problem. So your whole post is predicated on a falsehood.

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                • pasawayako
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by El Castigador
                  Clottey came in 149 Pounds vs. Corralles.
                  floyd came at 146 against marquez in 144 catchweight limit.

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                  • hahaa
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by dcopo1
                    DUMBO

                    if you are asking a fighter for a weight penalty of 10 mil (when it's normally a few hundred thousand) you need to IMPLEMENT that SAME penalty on fighters who have a history with their weight. if not 10 mil the equivalent of what he has. put a penalty on clottey for 3 million PER POUND. this = how insane it was when he asked mayweather for 10 million PER POUND. you can't work yourself around this. he has been caught pacfart.
                    Need to implement the same penalty on fighters who have a history of their weight...

                    bigger picture: the purpose of it was to simply prevent floyd of doing what he did against marquez. no one in their right mind would fork over $10mil to gain an edge. But for (what was it 600k?) a cash cow such as floyd can fork it up in order to protect his biggest asset -- 0 (as such in the case against marquez, as if he needed any more advantage)


                    And don't tell me Clottey has a history, well yes you can...but his body simply could not make it, not because there was intent to take advantage. And it was not intentional because no one of his financial stature at the time would pay up a few hundred thousands, just to win a fight.

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                    • shogunn
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      You are avoiding the question like white people avoid the N word.

                      The question is real simple,

                      if Clottey came overweight would his penalty be something boxing has never seen before making his penalty unprecedented like it was with mayweather?

                      YES OR NO?

                      Meaning if he came overweight, would the response be, "Clottey is about to face a penalty never seen before in the sport of boxing"?
                      dood, wtf are you talking about. I knew I shouldnt have used things as FACTS, LOGIC, and MATH into my argument with floyd fans, cuz they would bring up ****** **** like race.




                      Now, Why would we hear about Clottey and "unprecedented" penalty when his purse is only 1 million. If you do the MATH, 20 % of 1 million would be 200,000, which would be the equivalent to Floyds 10 million of 50 million.





                      The only reason why the amount is "unprecedented" to you is the PURSE. This megafight between Manny and Floyd is rare, and "unprecedented", and is rumored to have the fight make more money than any fight in history.

                      Now if you do the MATH again, 10 million sounds unprecedented because no fighters were EVER scheduled to make more than 50 million in a fight. Heavyweights were close but when do they ever come in overweight?

                      If you dont understand the reasoning and logic behind this, its because floyd **** and balls are shoved in your mouth. Now, when has olympic style blood testing been introduced into a fight? isnt that considered unprecedented and excessive?


                      Again, talking numbers, facts, and logic...

                      10 million of 50 million is 20%


                      Can you answer me how much 20% of 1 million is?

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