The parallels between Mayweathe/Pacquiao and Ali/Foreman

[johnle43]

the difference is that ali is brave and floyd is a coward.

yeah pretty much nail on head....both great boxers, one had a pair.

[shadeyfizzle]

He won the first fight the lost the second and then lost the third. How did he "arguably" won the trilogy?

At the end of the 14th rd of the 3rd fight Ali was telling his trainer dundee to stop the fight while Frazier who was already fighting blind at that point was begging Futch to let him go out for the last round.

If Frazier's trainer Eddie Futch didnt throw in the towel Ali would not have answered the bell for the 15th round.

[Schmerzen]

At the end of the 14th rd of the 3rd fight Ali was telling his trainer dundee to stop the fight while Frazier who was already fighting blind at that point was begging Futch to let him go out for the last round.

If Frazier's trainer Eddie Futch didnt throw in the towel Ali would not have answered the bell for the 15th round.

thats why frazier was yelling to his trainer he cant see anymore, begging sounds different for me

[shadeyfizzle]

thats why frazier was yelling to his trainer he cant see anymore, begging sounds different for me

that's why i said "arguable".

The only thing certain is that Ali was asking dundee to stop the fight. If Frazier came out for the 15th rd Ali would not have.

[Schmerzen]

that's why i said "arguable".

The only thing certain is that Ali was asking dundee to stop the fight. If Frazier came out for the 15th rd Ali would not have.

ali took over from 12 round on, its just 1 out of 1000 excuses fraziers corner made after frazier lost the trilogy.
except holmes, nobody made ali quit, and at the time of the holmes vs ali fight, ali was allready a pro for 20 years.
anyway, frazier could have get up and continue, but since he agreed to futch and quit there is no " arguable win" for him.
u dont have any proof ali wanted to quit, except biased statements and quotes from frazier & friends.

[shadeyfizzle]

ali took over from 12 round on, its just 1 out of 1000 excuses fraziers corner made after frazier lost the trilogy.
except holmes, nobody made ali quit, and at the time of the holmes vs ali fight, ali was allready a pro for 20 years.
anyway, frazier could have get up and continue, but since he agreed to futch and quit there is no " arguable win" for him.
u dont have any proof ali wanted to quit, except biased statements and quotes from frazier & friends.

"That was the closest I've ever came to dying" - Muhammad Ali

[Sugar Ram]

Anyone else see it this way?

Foreman like Pacquiao, king of his day, Devastating knockout power, Destroys common opponents worst than Ali did just as Pacquiao did with Mayweathers common opponents.

I just believe Mayweather would easily outsmart Pacquiao and defeat him



I believe Mayweather would have FAR much trouble with Mosley than he would with the dominating Pacquiao


Mosley MAY be Mayweathers Frazier. Just possibly....I still favor Mayweather.

Dumb comparison u ****ing ****er!!

[Schmerzen]

"That was the closest I've ever came to dying" - Muhammad Ali

he also said to zora folleys crying son that his father in his prime would have whooped him, or " earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk in africa ", but he didnt quit against shavers, did he ?

[-EX-]

Pacquiao wasn't KOing people like Foreman tho from what I've seen...

And Floyd wouldn't be a big underdog against Pacquiao(should be the favorite)...

[PAKYO]

Pacquiao wasn't KOing people like Foreman tho from what I've seen...

And Floyd wouldn't be a big underdog against Pacquiao(should be the favorite)...

Yeah...

Pac just made them quit if not make them sleep on the canvass unlike floyd who made me sleep on the sofa watching his fights.