For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

[el malo]

With or without drugs??? WOW.

Yeah Pac doesnt need money yet he made Clottey take a 90/10 split. Please stop.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

good read


For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

By Frank Lotierzo

The on and off again “super fight” between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. has turned the boxing world and community upside down more so than it even was just a month ago. It's no secret to anyone who has observed Mayweather and his minions that they've purposely created a controversy to hold up the fight in which there is not a shred of evidence that one exist.

One last time, there's not a morsel of evidence that Pacquiao has ever taken PED's/HGH. On top of that there's no such drug or supplement that can give a fighter more than he has physically; and if you think differently you haven't been around that many ranked or upper-tier professional boxers/fighters. Isn't it something how David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto had no qualm about fighting Pacquiao and then created a false smoke screen regarding steroid usage after losing to him in somewhat convincing fashion?

For those who forget, both Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas tinkered with some sort of supplements at a particular point in their careers. And it just so happens during that precise period they both suffered defeats. In fact it can be said during the period they were believed to taking different banned substances they never looked worse suffering their most conclusive defeats of their careers.

Pacquiao's body or actions haven't shown anything that would suggest he's juicing or beating the system in any way shape or form. He just happens to be a physical phenom like former five-division and all-time great Thomas Hearns. Hearns, like Pacquiao, was a string bean when he turned pro but put on muscle and retained his hand speed and power as he moved up in weight.

The ruse Mayweather is attempting to pull over on the boxing community is all about power and control. It boils down to nothing more than Mayweather, who is the lesser draw at the gate than Pacquiao; trying to dictate the terms to the fighter who has more leverage and needs him less to make a ton of money. Mayweather thinks if he makes enough accusations that Pacquiao is using PED's/HGH that people will begin to think it's true. And sadly some of those who show blind loyalty to Mayweather and act as if it's his birth right to go down as one of the greats - give him cover.

Today the Mayweather faction tries to paint anyone who doesn't worship at the throne of Mayweather as being a hater. That's great and if they think that they can dismiss the bull-crap that Mayweather is doing by simply painting those who know the game of boxing and stating the truth, great. They'll get no where and will continue to fight and make excuses for a fighter who has cried, begged and pleaded for homage more than any supposed great fighter during the modern era of professional boxing.

The bottom line is Manny Pacquiao isn't concerned about passing a drug test regardless of whether it's done by the Nevada State Athletic Commission or the Olympic committee. It's the idea that who is Floyd Mayweather to dictate the terms and conditions of it above and beyond any other championship fight in history? Why should Pacquiao let the fighter who needs the fight more for his career in an historical sense call the shots?

He shouldn't.



Pacquiao knows he can submit to any style drug test without worrying about passing it, but why should he? Simply because Floyd Mayweather Jr. insist on it? Pacquiao has smartly refused to give in and let Mayweather dictate the terms and circumstances surrounding the bout when he has more leverage of the two fighters.

Hopefully, Arum or Pacquiao will soon announce that they're going in a different direction since the Mayweather faction isn't serious about making the fight. And that they'll try and make a fight with the Mosley-Berto winner. If Mosley does beat Berto, every boxing observer alive knows he and Pacquiao would be a better and more exciting fight than Pacquiao-Mayweather.

Not to mention it would be conducted between two great fighters who are truly interested in finding out who the better fighter is more than just playing the system and fans.

That's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard. Only a ******* would agree with that. Why then did Pac come up with the excuses that he was afraid of needles and that it would make him weak for the fight? If he wasn't going to let any one call the shots, why didn't he just say so from the beginning? Because thats not the case at all. And the comment how Mayweather needs Manny in a historical sense is a useless argument. It might be true but it doesn't mean Floyd can't have his own stipulations as well. When it comes down to it both fighters needed each other to make as much money as they were going to get or else they wouldn't have agreed to a 50/50 split. Get your heads out of your asses guys.

[namme]

i would do it for 25$ million dollars.. id even do it for 10,000$ dollars...

Are you as good, as famous and as rich like Pacquiao!

If you are, then why not? You have the right to be proud of taking the fight... THAT IS IF you are as rich, as famous and as good as Pacquiao in boxing.

But if you are not, then you don't really understand why Pacquiao turned away from the ridiculous blood testing offered by Floyd.

You'll just end up hating Pacquiao.

[namme]

It's utter bull****. He can show control in the ring, not outside.


What makes more sense? Him not fighting because he feels "not in control" if he takes the blood tests
or
Him taking the random blood tests, proving his critics wrong, proving Floyd wrong, and last but not least, beat Floyd up in the ring, and thereby make $50 million.

Use your brain.

You can say that to Floyd also!

Why would he offer such a ridiculous test when he believes he can defeat Pacquiao? Or do you think Floyd is afraid that Pacquiao will annihilate him because of the PEDs?? Which is which?

[namme]

That's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard. Only a ******* would agree with that. Why then did Pac come up with the excuses that he was afraid of needles and that it would make him weak for the fight? If he wasn't going to let any one call the shots, why didn't he just say so from the beginning? Because thats not the case at all. And the comment how Mayweather needs Manny in a historical sense is a useless argument. It might be true but it doesn't mean Floyd can't have his own stipulations as well. When it comes down to it both fighters needed each other to make as much money as they were going to get or else they wouldn't have agreed to a 50/50 split. Get your heads out of your asses guys.

Well, Floyd should have just agreed with Pacquiao's counter-offer of a 24-day limit then. But Floyd did not. It was the most that Team Pacquiao could offer to Floyd. But he did not buy it.

BTW, if Money is the only reason for the fight to take place, then they should have just agreed WITHOUT ANY STIPULATIONS at the beginning.

But bigtime boxing nowadays, starts outside the ring and ends inside. A fighter does not need ONLY the money, but also to gain a mental advantage over his opponent!

In the case of the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco, it was clearly NOT ABOUT MONEY ANYMORE BUT about gaining a mental advantage over the other.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Well, Floyd should have just agreed with Pacquiao's counter-offer of a 24-day limit then. But Floyd did not. It was the most that Team Pacquiao could offer to Floyd. But he did not buy it.

What for? He didn't try to negotiate the ten million dollar penalty for every pound over, right? Pac should have just agreed to Mayweathers clause like he agreed to Pac's. That would be the fair thing to do.

BTW, if Money is the only reason for the fight to take place, then they should have just agreed WITHOUT ANY STIPULATIONS at the beginning.

But bigtime boxing nowadays, starts outside the ring and ends inside. A fighter does not need ONLY the money, but also to gain a mental advantage over his opponent!

In the case of the Pacquiao-Mayweather fiasco, it was clearly NOT ABOUT MONEY ANYMORE BUT about gaining a mental advantage over the other.

Yes to a certain degree, but in this case it could be called stubbornness more than anything else. Pac and his people use the excuse of why should they agree to something thats not ordered by the commission. The ten million dollar clause was not ordered by the commission either but Floyd had no problem agreeing to it. And how do you get a mental edge over someone like Manny with something like this. Is he that weak mentally? Would he lose or not perform to his best ability because he had to give in and agree to Mayweathers terms? Floyd agreed to his and isn't worried of losing because of it. No matter what argument you guys put up, its easily picked apart because Manny was just plain wrong for pulling out the way he did.

[silkyjohnson]

Negro please! That's a lame ass excuse! The drug testing stipulation was the only one Pretty Boy put on the contract. All the other **** came from the Pacquiao camp and Floyd was more than happy to abide. Pac knows he would get whooped without that A-side Meth.

[jpunieves]

Negro please! That's a lame ass excuse! The drug testing stipulation was the only one Pretty Boy put on the contract. All the other **** came from the Pacquiao camp and Floyd was more than happy to abide. Pac knows he would get whooped without that A-side Meth.

floyd knows he would get a whoop-in-the-as$ when he comes in contact with anting-anting... he'll realize pacquiao eats balut for snack

[Amadla Ngawethu]

good read


For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

By Frank Lotierzo

The on and off again “super fight” between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. has turned the boxing world and community upside down more so than it even was just a month ago. It's no secret to anyone who has observed Mayweather and his minions that they've purposely created a controversy to hold up the fight in which there is not a shred of evidence that one exist.

One last time, there's not a morsel of evidence that Pacquiao has ever taken PED's/HGH. On top of that there's no such drug or supplement that can give a fighter more than he has physically; and if you think differently you haven't been around that many ranked or upper-tier professional boxers/fighters. Isn't it something how David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto had no qualm about fighting Pacquiao and then created a false smoke screen regarding steroid usage after losing to him in somewhat convincing fashion?

For those who forget, both Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas tinkered with some sort of supplements at a particular point in their careers. And it just so happens during that precise period they both suffered defeats. In fact it can be said during the period they were believed to taking different banned substances they never looked worse suffering their most conclusive defeats of their careers.

Pacquiao's body or actions haven't shown anything that would suggest he's juicing or beating the system in any way shape or form. He just happens to be a physical phenom like former five-division and all-time great Thomas Hearns. Hearns, like Pacquiao, was a string bean when he turned pro but put on muscle and retained his hand speed and power as he moved up in weight.

The ruse Mayweather is attempting to pull over on the boxing community is all about power and control. It boils down to nothing more than Mayweather, who is the lesser draw at the gate than Pacquiao; trying to dictate the terms to the fighter who has more leverage and needs him less to make a ton of money. Mayweather thinks if he makes enough accusations that Pacquiao is using PED's/HGH that people will begin to think it's true. And sadly some of those who show blind loyalty to Mayweather and act as if it's his birth right to go down as one of the greats - give him cover.

Today the Mayweather faction tries to paint anyone who doesn't worship at the throne of Mayweather as being a hater. That's great and if they think that they can dismiss the bull-crap that Mayweather is doing by simply painting those who know the game of boxing and stating the truth, great. They'll get no where and will continue to fight and make excuses for a fighter who has cried, begged and pleaded for homage more than any supposed great fighter during the modern era of professional boxing.

The bottom line is Manny Pacquiao isn't concerned about passing a drug test regardless of whether it's done by the Nevada State Athletic Commission or the Olympic committee. It's the idea that who is Floyd Mayweather to dictate the terms and conditions of it above and beyond any other championship fight in history? Why should Pacquiao let the fighter who needs the fight more for his career in an historical sense call the shots?

He shouldn't.



Pacquiao knows he can submit to any style drug test without worrying about passing it, but why should he? Simply because Floyd Mayweather Jr. insist on it? Pacquiao has smartly refused to give in and let Mayweather dictate the terms and circumstances surrounding the bout when he has more leverage of the two fighters.

Hopefully, Arum or Pacquiao will soon announce that they're going in a different direction since the Mayweather faction isn't serious about making the fight. And that they'll try and make a fight with the Mosley-Berto winner. If Mosley does beat Berto, every boxing observer alive knows he and Pacquiao would be a better and more exciting fight than Pacquiao-Mayweather.

Not to mention it would be conducted between two great fighters who are truly interested in finding out who the better fighter is more than just playing the system and fans.

What an idiot Pacquiao would be,taking peanuts in a fight with Clottey instead of big money against Mayweather.Maybe that head is only big because of vitamins and not brains

[Ballroom Guru]

Right, thats why he agreed to take them... as long as they didnt test a month out from the fight...

Pac is on drugs, I didnt believe it at first... but now it's just ******edly obvious.

yup i agree.

This is the *****RONS' way of thinking