For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

[jqSide]

what pacquiao doesn't realize is that whether its fair or not, mayweather has ruined his reputation. adhering to his original stance will only make him seem guilty. "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to law, not public opinion. pacquiao will eventually have to give in and take the test if the fight is to happen. can you imagine mayweather backing off his claims and then letting the fight happen? pacquiao will look guilty if that were to happen.

why do you people keep saying that "mayweather has ruined his reputation?" says who? you? who are you? you know damn well that this all started with his great pappy accusing pac of using ped. a bum you would not exactly trust for credible info. and didn't you just read the article you've reposted here? it explains why pac is not submitting to floyd's demands. not agreeing to the test doesn't necessarily mean you're guilty. you have to present credible evidence. so far not one individual has come out to confirm he's taking them... you can't possibly believe that this is just a two-man conspiracy theory do you? where is the source of the substance, who is supplying it, etc...

it's floyd's rep that was ruined here, not pac. the impression that he's ducking pac is all over your own media. yes, the us media. who are you kidding?

[FLYBOY]

don't accept the fcuking tests the commission did not even suggested (damn those fools) and put a suffering to the supposed-to-be opponent by leaving the table of record breaking money.

i think manny would have had that ****** test IF the proper channels addressed him to do so. obviously, crackheads are not included in those 'proper' authorities involved.

ruin my reputation? then i give you siht and kiss your 40mill goodbye... you can do on your own, and i can certainly do on my own without the trashtalk...

well that's just my take.

calm down u sound like a ***** on her period. if he was clean, he would take the test. period.

[DLT]

good read


For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

By Frank Lotierzo

The on and off again “super fight” between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. has turned the boxing world and community upside down more so than it even was just a month ago. It's no secret to anyone who has observed Mayweather and his minions that they've purposely created a controversy to hold up the fight in which there is not a shred of evidence that one exist.

One last time, there's not a morsel of evidence that Pacquiao has ever taken PED's/HGH. On top of that there's no such drug or supplement that can give a fighter more than he has physically; and if you think differently you haven't been around that many ranked or upper-tier professional boxers/fighters. Isn't it something how David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto had no qualm about fighting Pacquiao and then created a false smoke screen regarding steroid usage after losing to him in somewhat convincing fashion?

For those who forget, both Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas tinkered with some sort of supplements at a particular point in their careers. And it just so happens during that precise period they both suffered defeats. In fact it can be said during the period they were believed to taking different banned substances they never looked worse suffering their most conclusive defeats of their careers.

Pacquiao's body or actions haven't shown anything that would suggest he's juicing or beating the system in any way shape or form. He just happens to be a physical phenom like former five-division and all-time great Thomas Hearns. Hearns, like Pacquiao, was a string bean when he turned pro but put on muscle and retained his hand speed and power as he moved up in weight.

The ruse Mayweather is attempting to pull over on the boxing community is all about power and control. It boils down to nothing more than Mayweather, who is the lesser draw at the gate than Pacquiao; trying to dictate the terms to the fighter who has more leverage and needs him less to make a ton of money. Mayweather thinks if he makes enough accusations that Pacquiao is using PED's/HGH that people will begin to think it's true. And sadly some of those who show blind loyalty to Mayweather and act as if it's his birth right to go down as one of the greats - give him cover.

Today the Mayweather faction tries to paint anyone who doesn't worship at the throne of Mayweather as being a hater. That's great and if they think that they can dismiss the bull-crap that Mayweather is doing by simply painting those who know the game of boxing and stating the truth, great. They'll get no where and will continue to fight and make excuses for a fighter who has cried, begged and pleaded for homage more than any supposed great fighter during the modern era of professional boxing.

The bottom line is Manny Pacquiao isn't concerned about passing a drug test regardless of whether it's done by the Nevada State Athletic Commission or the Olympic committee. It's the idea that who is Floyd Mayweather to dictate the terms and conditions of it above and beyond any other championship fight in history? Why should Pacquiao let the fighter who needs the fight more for his career in an historical sense call the shots?

He shouldn't.



Pacquiao knows he can submit to any style drug test without worrying about passing it, but why should he? Simply because Floyd Mayweather Jr. insist on it? Pacquiao has smartly refused to give in and let Mayweather dictate the terms and circumstances surrounding the bout when he has more leverage of the two fighters.

Hopefully, Arum or Pacquiao will soon announce that they're going in a different direction since the Mayweather faction isn't serious about making the fight. And that they'll try and make a fight with the Mosley-Berto winner. If Mosley does beat Berto, every boxing observer alive knows he and Pacquiao would be a better and more exciting fight than Pacquiao-Mayweather.

Not to mention it would be conducted between two great fighters who are truly interested in finding out who the better fighter is more than just playing the system and fans.

The bold part proved what side this guy is on in itself. He's a Pac fan who hates Floyd

[the330ballers]

why do you people keep saying that "mayweather has ruined his reputation?" says who? you? who are you? you know damn well that this all started with his great pappy accusing pac of using ped. a bum you would not exactly trust for credible info. and didn't you just read the article you've reposted here? it explains why pac is not submitting to floyd's demands. not agreeing to the test doesn't necessarily mean you're guilty. you have to present credible evidence. so far not one individual has come out to confirm he's taking them... you can't possibly believe that this is just a two-man conspiracy theory do you? where is the source of the substance, who is supplying it, etc...

it's floyd's rep that was ruined here, not pac. the impression that he's ducking pac is all over your own media. yes, the us media. who are you kidding?

i wish more people thought like you buddy... look around. people aren't really like that. im glad that there are people who recognize that MP was unfairly accused of taking steroids. but from reading articles, these forums, listening to people talk (even boxers, look at paulie, cotto, marquez, and all of these others who side with mayweather. then you've got allan green, bernstein and others siding with pacquiao) I'd say public opinion is about 50/50. The fact that it is even like that to begin with is a travesty.


And the article I submitted there.... I WROTE. So I'm showing where I stand when it comes to MP taking steroids. But that doesn't mean I don't think he needs to take the test to prove people wrong. (Like I said, its unfortunate, cause it really should have never gotten to this.)

[PAKYO]

Floyd the fraud is mighty scared of Pac. Even *****s here agrees their idol totally fears the pacman that they keep making excuses for their idol not to fight pac.

[Clint650]

no random tests. not going to believe your word. clear as that. do you know how many athletes had a straight public image before being exposed. a few too many. he goes to church, he's believes in god, he would NEVER cheat. thats what i hear. test results prove beyond any doubt. but whatever dont take the tests. try and convince everyone paying attention that it's not importnat. see how that works out.

[S A M U R A I]

i would do it for 25$ million dollars.. id even do it for 10,000$ dollars...

Maybe you wouldn't if you were a billionaire in the Philippines. It's no surprise to hear ordinary people saying they would do it... but Pacquiao isn't us. He doesn't need money. If I was him I'd tell Floyd to **** off. If I was Floyd I'd stop being a chicken and tell Manny I'd fight him with or without drugs. Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao. "Oh, he might be on drugs". What kind of a ***** comes up with this ****?

Oh, his father. Of course.

Do you guys believe everything you're told? It's pretty scary how people are so easily led. If the father of a fighter can tell you one thing and you instantly fall for it, what the hell do you do when people in high positions of authority tell you what they think you should hear? People like you scare me.

Stop being such naive little sheep. Nobody would have said jack **** if Sr. hadn't said anything. The problem is half of you you can't think for yourselves, you're acting like gullible brainwashed ****ing morons.



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[El Castigador]

Maybe you wouldn't if you were a billionaire in the Philippines. It's no surprise to hear ordinary people saying they would do it... but Pacquiao isn't us. He doesn't need money. If I was him I'd tell Floyd to **** off. If I was Floyd I'd stop being a chicken and tell Manny I'd fight him with or without drugs.

With or without drugs??? WOW.

Yeah Pac doesnt need money yet he made Clottey take a 90/10 split. Please stop.

[el malo]

Right, thats why he agreed to take them... as long as they didnt test a month out from the fight...

Pac is on drugs, I didnt believe it at first... but now it's just ******edly obvious.

yup i agree.

[el malo]

Maybe you wouldn't if you were a billionaire in the Philippines.

what is a billionaire from the phillipines doing putting his life on the line, by fighting still? he dont need the money right? so whats the point of fighting a guy that lost to the guy he previously beat? whats the point of fighting period if he's a billionaire? its cuz he fights for the money like every other fighter. so he turned down twice as much money against a guy who's considered by some the best of this era, and a win can cement pacgwire's legacy as the best of this era, but turned it down over random blood test that a child can go thru without any problem? seems like your the one thats gullible.