For Pacquiao It's Not The Drug Test, It's Relinquishing Control

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  • BritishBoxing92
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    #41
    still think he should have taken the tests to prove floyd wrong...not that i think hes on steroids..but to you know silence the critics..

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    • Ballroom Guru
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      #42
      Originally posted by elmalo29

      Originally posted by El Castigador
      With or without drugs??? WOW.

      Yeah Pac doesnt need money yet he made Clottey take a 90/10 split. Please stop.



      This is really a funny *****ron. How can this be an ownage ? PAC clearlly doesnt need the money. He demanded that split because HE CAN

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      • namme
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        #43
        Originally posted by RossCA
        What for? He didn't try to negotiate the ten million dollar penalty for every pound over, right? Pac should have just agreed to Mayweathers clause like he agreed to Pac's. That would be the fair thing to do.

        Man, Team Pacquiao demanded $10M for every pound in excess because they have already an evidence that Floyd had cheated himself out against Marquez in their agreed weight of 144lbs. Remember Floyd came at 146lbs, 2lbs over the agreed weigt limit. He simply cheated Marquez and paid him less than a million dollars because he can pay that kind of amount anytime. Now that's a very valid reason, and there is evidence to back it up.
        Steroids/HGH/PEDs taken by Pacquiao are all coming from mere insinuations, accusations with no valid reason and evidence to back it up. IF FLOYD WON'T CHEAT AGAIN, THEN he won't have any problems paying for that $10M! very simple man!

        On the other hand, Team Mayweather were asking Pacquiao to make a test when there was no iota of evidence that Pacquiao has been taking PEDs, unlike that cheating Floyd made against Marquez?

        I now ask, is it fair to demand for a drug test, which has never been used in the history of boxing, when there were no evidence in the past that the one accused was taking it?? Tell me, is it fair?


        Yes to a certain degree, but in this case it could be called stubbornness more than anything else. Pac and his people use the excuse of why should they agree to something thats not ordered by the commission. The ten million dollar clause was not ordered by the commission either but Floyd had no problem agreeing to it. And how do you get a mental edge over someone like Manny with something like this. Is he that weak mentally? Would he lose or not perform to his best ability because he had to give in and agree to Mayweathers terms? Floyd agreed to his and isn't worried of losing because of it. No matter what argument you guys put up, its easily picked apart because Manny was just plain wrong for pulling out the way he did.
        Manny will be weakened because it is a FACT that he believed that losing blood can weaken him mentally. That in itself is an advantage to Floyd, AND PACQUIAO DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. Remember Sugar Ray Leonard once said that "boxing is 90% mental and 10% physical." That's precisely why Team Pacquiao negotiated the 24-day limit which Floyd automatically rejected.

        I'm amazed that you said Floyd isn't worried of losing! IF FLOYD WASN'T WORRIED OF LOSING, THEN WHY DID HE DEMAND TO HAVE A DRUG TEST THAT HAS NEVER BEEN USED IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING??? To clean boxing of drug cheats? Come on, Man!

        As Holmes was saying in one interview "They're trying to bring up stuff that is taking away from the fight with drug tests and accusations. When you get into personal insults like that, it puts a damper on the fight.....If I'm making $25 million and he's taking dog food to make him stronger, so what? "

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        • the330ballers
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          #44
          Originally posted by RossCA
          That's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard. Only a ******* would agree with that. Why then did Pac come up with the excuses that he was afraid of needles and that it would make him weak for the fight? If he wasn't going to let any one call the shots, why didn't he just say so from the beginning? Because thats not the case at all. And the comment how Mayweather needs Manny in a historical sense is a useless argument. It might be true but it doesn't mean Floyd can't have his own stipulations as well. When it comes down to it both fighters needed each other to make as much money as they were going to get or else they wouldn't have agreed to a 50/50 split. Get your heads out of your asses guys.
          lol yeah manny pacquiao's just going to come out of nowhere saying "I CAN ONLY TAKE THIS FIGHT IF I DON'T GET BLOOD TESTED FOR STEROIDS"

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          • Gonzalez_Boxing
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            #45
            Originally posted by the330ballers
            lol yeah manny pacquiao's just going to come out of nowhere saying "I CAN ONLY TAKE THIS FIGHT IF I DON'T GET BLOOD TESTED FOR STEROIDS"
            I think the point RossCA was trying to make, if it was such a big deal and he felt like he was relinquishing control, why didn't Pacquiao say no to the blood test from the beginning of negotiations.
            Last edited by Gonzalez_Boxing; 02-14-2010, 10:25 PM.

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            • iHateThePacMan
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              #46
              could be true? who knows?

              But its not as sold as the redicolous demands from floyd which was a clear duck IMO.

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              • War Dinamita
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                #47
                He already gave up control of his career to Arum because Arum decides who he's going to fight and takes his 25% from Manny's payday.

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                • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by namme
                  Manny will be weakened because it is a FACT that he believed that losing blood can weaken him mentally. That in itself is an advantage to Floyd, AND PACQUIAO DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. Remember Sugar Ray Leonard once said that "boxing is 90% mental and 10% physical." That's precisely why Team Pacquiao negotiated the 24-day limit which Floyd automatically rejected.
                  But there are many video's out there with Manny saying he would not take the blood test the day of the fight and that it takes 3 to 4 days to recover, yet he turned down two weeks to recover. If you can't see how that doesn't sound right, I don't know what to tell you. Either you get it or you don't.

                  Originally posted by namme
                  I'm amazed that you said Floyd isn't worried of losing! IF FLOYD WASN'T WORRIED OF LOSING, THEN WHY DID HE DEMAND TO HAVE A DRUG TEST THAT HAS NEVER BEEN USED IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING??? To clean boxing of drug cheats? Come on, Man!
                  Yeah maybe he is to a certain degree. We are all human and we all have some doubts no matter what kind of front we put up. But Floyd is not worried to the degree that he refuses to fight because his opponent got a mental edge over him. Its called being a professional and going on with the show. The whole argument that Floyd shouldn't have asked for drug testing is nothing more than just whining about the whole thing. There were other fighters with the same su****ions about Manny. If you are going to put your life or health on the line, shouldn't you be able to be sure you are not being cheated? This is serious stuff most boxing fans don't understand about the sport. Forget the statistics, any man can die in there.

                  Originally posted by namme
                  As Holmes was saying in one interview "They're trying to bring up stuff that is taking away from the fight with drug tests and accusations. When you get into personal insults like that, it puts a damper on the fight.....If I'm making $25 million and he's taking dog food to make him stronger, so what? "
                  Holmes is and always has been an idiot. Seriously.

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                  • B-Money
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by California Love
                    He already gave up control of his career to Arum because Arum decides who he's going to fight and takes his 25% from Manny's payday.
                    lol dont forget floyd was also under arum for quite some time.

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                    • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by the330ballers
                      lol yeah manny pacquiao's just going to come out of nowhere saying "I CAN ONLY TAKE THIS FIGHT IF I DON'T GET BLOOD TESTED FOR STEROIDS"
                      You misunderstood. I'm saying, why didn't he say from the beginning that he wasn't going to let anyone call the shots? There's to many of you guys putting words into Manny's mouth around here.

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