When/If Bernard beats Roy, will you call it even then?

[M.I Truth ?]

2-1 odds. My 2 million to your 1 million.

Its starting to heat up. The bait is there.

[ИATAS]

i didn't understand the question when I voted. Yes, it will be technically even (1-1) if nard dawg wins but roy's victory over a green hopkins is more meaningful than old nard beating old roy.

[THE REED]

i didn't understand the question when I voted. Yes, it will be technically even (1-1) if nard dawg wins but roy's victory over a green hopkins is more meaningful than old nard beating old roy.

At least you took out "Very GREEN"

Age has nothing to do with anything... Bernard is still a top ranked LHW and top ranked P4P fighter... Bernard has certainly proven age has nothing to do with it. People still favor him to beat Dawson, and maybe even Haye.

Roy?


More like "more meaningful than an aged Bernard over a SHELL Roy Jones"


And it's not right to say Roy wasn't green at 21-0.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

I voted the wrong choice by mistake..

Ofc it means very little however i do think if Roy continues to fight and loses it hurts his legacy somewhat and he becomes a bit of a joke. Sure the people who watched him will allways remeber his prime but what about the people new to boxing. They see this old guy beat up by bums like Green, sure they can look at old videos but it's not the same.

I think Roy can beat Bernard and really **** over his legacy tho i just see Jones being the faster guy and Bhop not being able to pressure him alot like Green and Calzaghe did

[ИATAS]

At least you took out "Very GREEN"

Age has nothing to do with anything... Bernard is still a top ranked LHW and top ranked P4P fighter... Bernard has certainly proven age has nothing to do with it. People still favor him to beat Dawson, and maybe even Haye.

Age does have something to do with it and again, take away that weird KO loss to danny green and Roy is ranked in the top ten at LH. It's going to be a good fight

And it's not right to say Roy wasn't green at 21-0.

Roy wasn't quite in his prime yet either but he was closer to it. Pro records did not tell the story - Roy had a long and great amateur career and fought in the olympics, hopkins was serving time in the pen. Roy fought at the highest stage, hopkins didn't. Roy was used to the bright flashy lights and the whole world watching him, hopkins never experienced any of that before.

[Eaner0919]

the 93 win IMO is far more meaningful for a few reasons

there was some signifigance to it in that you had two of the best at 160 fighting for their first title

both were closer in career than now

it was an interesting study of styles. Hopkins is a true old school Philly fighter while Jones ushered in the more atheletic approach to the fight game

it was competitively fought with ebbs and flows inspite of what the scores indicated

flash foward to now

Hopkins is still an upper echelon fighter while Jones has regressed siginifigantly

Jones is just coming off of a 1st TKO loss to a guy he would have mopped up

their styles are now such that we may end up seeing one long ass chess match

the only aspect I can see that intrigues me is that Hopkins hasn't seen handspeed in forever so I am somewhat curious to see how he counters that

[THE REED]

I voted the wrong choice by mistake..

Ofc it means very little however i do think if Roy continues to fight and loses it hurts his legacy somewhat and he becomes a bit of a joke. Sure the people who watched him will allways remeber his prime but what about the people new to boxing. They see this old guy beat up by bums like Green, sure they can look at old videos but it's not the same.

I think Roy can beat Bernard and really **** over his legacy tho i just see Jones being the faster guy and Bhop not being able to pressure him alot like Green and Calzaghe did

Well the new people to boxing that see this happening now I don't value too much... If they don't know the history, their opinion can only be valued so much.

[THE REED]

Age does have something to do with it and again, take away that weird KO loss to danny green and Roy is ranked in the top ten at LH. It's going to be a good fight




Roy wasn't quite in his prime yet either but he was closer to it. Pro records did not tell the story - Roy had a long and great amateur career and fought in the olympics, hopkins was serving time in the pen. Roy fought at the highest stage, hopkins didn't. Roy was used to the bright flashy lights and the whole world watching him, hopkins never experienced any of that before.

Why because he beat Jeff Lacy? Is that not more of a depiction of how shallow the division is?


Amateurs and pros are two different leagues just like College and the NFL... I said I give Roy the experience nod, but it can't be looked as some HUGE factor. Bernard didnt lose again for 12 years after Roy beat him...

[southcentralcar]

Is Roys win over Bernard in 93 equal to a Bernard win over Roy now?

haha love the rjj express pic

[SplitSecond]

Age does have something to do with it and again, take away that weird KO loss to danny green and Roy is ranked in the top ten at LH. It's going to be a good fight




Roy wasn't quite in his prime yet either but he was closer to it. Pro records did not tell the story - Roy had a long and great amateur career and fought in the olympics, hopkins was serving time in the pen. Roy fought at the highest stage, hopkins didn't. Roy was used to the bright flashy lights and the whole world watching him, hopkins never experienced any of that before.

bernard hopkins was winning junior olympics at 9
jones hadn't started boxing till 10-11


it's not like he was'nt boxing in prison neither, he was givin those guys beatdowns

he wasn't as green as people make him out to be