Comments Thread For: Quadtrine Hill – The Next Great Heavyweight?

[Banned4Life]

Many fighters look like they could be good boxers in the NBA. There is no way to determine their transferrable skills, chin, power or work ethic, but there are certainly many prototypes of potential great heavyweights.

Just imagine Lamar Odom, he is 6'11" and lefty. Imagine that reach.

Also he's more athletic and quicker then any HW right now.

I wonder what his chin,punching power, and punching speed is like.

[The Gambler1981]

Chances favor that a fighter will fail to reach to top in his career starting from zero even the most highly touted prospects face long odds of truly making it.

There are only so many guys of size with the mental and physical abilities to truly make it, having one and not the other only gets someone so far now if people from that slim pool are going in other directions they can not really be replaced until someone from that pool decides to get into a life of boxing.

It works for everywhere there are really not that many men worldwide who can become world class heavyweights any who get ****** out by whatever means are not easily replaced.

[Alec900]

yeah it's sad when African-American athletes choose to make hundreds of millions dollars scoring touchdowns and dunking. Take the NFL and NBA away and blacks would dominate boxing once again. Can you imagine Dwight Howard, Ron Artest, Shaq, hell even Kobe Bryant if they were boxers and not Basketball stars. We wouldn't even know the steriod Russian freaks.

you really think it's that simple? all you need is to be athletic? *** punching power, *** punch resistance...

[Mikhnienko]

Many fighters look like they could be good boxers in the NBA. There is no way to determine their transferrable skills, chin, power or work ethic, but there are certainly many prototypes of potential great heavyweights.

Just imagine Lamar Odom, he is 6'11" and lefty. Imagine that reach.

Also he's more athletic and quicker then any HW right now.

I wonder what his chin,punching power, and punching speed is like.

*** you guys are sad.

Vitali & Odom. Take note of their forearms, legs and especially their necks. Vitali's neck is literally almost twice as thick. A strong ***ing breeze could KO Odom.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes, but imagine if Lamar Odom had been groomed from childhood to be a boxer instead of a basketball player.

The fact is that America's best athletes are raised to play in the NFL and the NBA and baseball. Boxing for the most part gets all the guys that can't hack it in the big money sports.

[JGH2008]

Boxing is unlike other sports...

Boxing is unlike other sports, it is the most demanding, lonely, dangerous, and challenging of all. It is physically and psychologically the most difficult competition. The pain, the fear, the danger can be overwhelming, and one unseen punch can change the whole "game". Boxers are born and molded, and some great athlete cannot just choose to become a boxer. Quadtrine Hill will not last as a boxer for long, if he ever even gets to fight as a pro.

[Davros?]

The whole NBA/NFL argument is crap and here is why -- the general level of american heavyweights did not change, outside of the few stars that american heavyweight scene had. How many great american heavies were there in the 90s outside of holyfield? Or how about 80s outside of Tyson? or 70s and Ali/Frazier/Foreman, which was an exception to a general trend. All these american guys that the aforementioned stars were beating up would be just where they were then today. It's all in perception.

Most of the top American fighters beat the more experienced Eastern Euro's in the Olympics and as for top fighters lets have a look post war. Another thing to look at was there was often a number of solid fighters who where skilled enough to put on exciting fights. The truth is Boxing is just a sport and sport is supposed to be exciting to watch I like watching skilled fighters but they have to be in some exciting fights, I respect the East Euro fighters they are good but i think part of the problem is the Klits are so much better than anyone else I just hope Haye or Chambers will put on an exciting fight against the Klits even if they lose. Another problem is imo most of the Eastern Euro fighters fight in the same stand up style. I havent got time to make a full list but here are some of the top of my head. If you want to watch old school heavyweight action i would go and watch the cruiserweight division imo its been had some great heavyweight type fights over the past 10 years.

10's
???

00's
no top fighters

Solid fighters
Byrd
Brewster
Rahman


90's
Top fighters
Holyfield
Bowe
Tyson

Solid fighters
McCall
Michael Moorer
Tommy Morrison
Ray Mercer
Larry Holmes
Foreman
Tony Tucker

80's
Top Fighters
Tyson
Holmes

Solid Fighters
Michael Dokes
Buster Douglas
Alex Stewart
Pinklon Thomas
Trevor Berbick
Mike Weaver
Tim Witherspoon
Carl Williams
James Smith
Tony Tucker

70's
Top Fighters
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Norton

Solid Fighters
James Smith
Earnie Shavers
Ron Lyle
Jerry Quarry
Jimmy Ellis

60's
Top Fighters
Ali
Liston

Solid Fighter
Floyd Patterson
Jerry Quarry
Jimmy Ellis
Cleveland Williams
Ernie Terrell

50's
Marciano
Patterson
Ezzard Charles

Solid Fighters
Tommy Jackson
Jersey Joe Walcott

[nomadman]

Yes, but imagine if Lamar Odom had been groomed from childhood to be a boxer instead of a basketball player.

The fact is that America's best athletes are raised to play in the NFL and the NBA and baseball. Boxing for the most part gets all the guys that can't hack it in the big money sports.

So you agree that if soccer weren't around, boxing would be dominated by Brazilians, Italians, Germans and French, right?

[badboypeenoy]

bump this thread after a year or two for a good laugh.

[nomadman]

By the way, a lot of people seem to be under the impression that Eastern European guys have no other options than boxing. This is nonsense. The percentage of Eastern Europeans dreaming of becoming the next Klitschko is dawrfed by those wanting to become the next Shevchenko. I can't think of a single European country (besides maybe Lithuania or Estonia) where soccer isn't the number 1 sport.