Why I agree with Nacho Beristain regarding JM Marquez vs Khan.

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  • SlickBoxer
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    Why I agree with Nacho Beristain regarding JM Marquez vs Khan.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. has just shown Roach how to beat JM Marquez. Roach came up with two gameplans to beat JM Marquez and failed twice using his best fighter in his gym. That could be because of two reason, Pacquiao being one-dimensional and failing to execute the gameplan, or Roach being overrated when facing a fighter not completely shot.

    Having said that, Mayweather just showed us how to dominate Marquez, Roach has finally realized how to get the job done. Pacquiao can't do it, in my opinion, because his reach is not enough and Marquez can counter him.

    I'm sure Roach will be watching the video of FMJ vs JMM dozens of times, and will be working non-stop with Khan to try and adapt that strategy. Khan is not as good all-around as Pacquiao, but he has the reach and speed to do the same thing Mayweather has done. He wouldn't win as impressively as Floyd, he would get hit a lot more, he would look a bit sloppy at times, but I think he would get the job done.

    Mayweather is the best fighter right now, and he would beat Marquez at any weight and at any time in their career, but one of the reasons he made JMM look like a complete bum is his reach advantage and speed. Khan is no where near the level of Mayweather, but the blueprint has been made and I don't think Marquez is mentally the same fighter after the humiliating loss to Mayweather to deal with those disadvantages. We all know if Khan tries to trade with JMM his glass china chin will be cracked, but lets get real here, he's going to be on his bike for 12 rounds with his arms up like Winky Wright, only throwing a jab to appear to be fighting, and his reach will allow him to do this.

    It can only hurt Marquez's career to lose a decision to a 3rd rate fighter such as Khan who will get all the glory for being at the right place at the right time. Just like his garbage victory over Barrera.

    That's my opinion on this. Khan should fight Maidana and Roach should stop cherry-picking leftovers taking glory for using other fighters blueprints.
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    JMM and Nacho should demand Olympic style drug testing

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    • ma51f
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      #3
      if anyones cherry picking its JMM

      he thinks Khan is the easiest champ at light-welta so he wants to take him on and become 4 weight world champ

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      • SlickBoxer
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        #4
        Originally posted by El Cabron
        JMM and Nacho should demand Olympic style drug testing
        Roach would claim Khan's religion prevents blood testing.

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        • AllEyesOpen
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          #5
          Originally posted by SlickBoxer
          Floyd Mayweather Jr. has just shown Roach how to beat JM Marquez. Roach came up with two gameplans to beat JM Marquez and failed twice using his best fighter in his gym. That could be because of two reason, Pacquiao being one-dimensional and failing to execute the gameplan, or Roach being overrated when facing a fighter not completely shot.

          Having said that, Mayweather just showed us how to dominate Marquez, Roach has finally realized how to get the job done. Pacquiao can't do it, in my opinion, because his reach is not enough and Marquez can counter him.

          I'm sure Roach will be watching the video of FMJ vs JMM dozens of times, and will be working non-stop with Khan to try and adapt that strategy. Khan is not as good all-around as Pacquiao, but he has the reach and speed to do the same thing Mayweather has done. He wouldn't win as impressively as Floyd, he would get hit a lot more, he would look a bit sloppy at times, but I think he would get the job done.

          Mayweather is the best fighter right now, and he would beat Marquez at any weight and at any time in their career, but one of the reasons he made JMM look like a complete bum is his reach advantage and speed. Khan is no where near the level of Mayweather, but the blueprint has been made and I don't think Marquez is mentally the same fighter after the humiliating loss to Mayweather to deal with those disadvantages. We all know if Khan tries to trade with JMM his glass china chin will be cracked, but lets get real here, he's going to be on his bike for 12 rounds with his arms up like Winky Wright, only throwing a jab to appear to be fighting, and his reach will allow him to do this.

          It can only hurt Marquez's career to lose a decision to a 3rd rate fighter such as Khan who will get all the glory for being at the right place at the right time. Just like his garbage victory over Barrera.

          That's my opinion on this. Khan should fight Maidana and Roach should stop cherry-picking leftovers taking glory for using other fighters blueprints.
          I don't think it's as easy to do what Mayweather does as it looks. Marquez, at least IMHO is still a very much live opponent until proven otherwise. Khan would impress me if he wins this one.

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            #6
            Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
            I don't think it's as easy to do what Mayweather does as it looks. Marquez, at least IMHO is still a very much live opponent until proven otherwise. Khan would impress me if he wins this one.

            Watch the Barrera fight. Khan was on his bike using his size to the fullest. When he exchanged with Barrera, his legs got a little shaky and bambi almost appeared again. Then watch Khan vs Kotelnik. Roach made damn sure Khan abides his Khan rule, "NO trading allowed". Khan ran the entire fight with his guard up as high as possible making the flat footed old fighter chase him around the ring.

            JMM is not flat footed, but he's going to have to chase Khan around a lot. Khan will NEVER engage with him and I just see it as being a run and potshot session for 12 rounds. Mayweather made it look easy and artful. Khan will not be nearly as offensive as Floyd, but he will copy the blueprint which is to jab and keep distance. Khan doesn't have the skills to exploit any mistakes of JMM like Floyd did, but he doesn't care to, he will throw jabs and run. That's it. I know Roach!

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              #7
              Originally posted by SlickBoxer
              Watch the Barrera fight. Khan was on his bike using his size to the fullest. When he exchanged with Barrera, his legs got a little shaky and bambi almost appeared again. Then watch Khan vs Kotelnik. Roach made damn sure Khan abides his Khan rule, "NO trading allowed". Khan ran the entire fight with his guard up as high as possible making the flat footed old fighter chase him around the ring.

              JMM is not flat footed, but he's going to have to chase Khan around a lot. Khan will NEVER engage with him and I just see it as being a run and potshot session for 12 rounds. Mayweather made it look easy and artful. Khan will not be nearly as offensive as Floyd, but he will copy the blueprint which is to jab and keep distance. Khan doesn't have the skills to exploit any mistakes of JMM like Floyd did, but he doesn't care to, he will throw jabs and run. That's it. I know Roach!

              BRAVO!! I believe that this would be Roach's gameplan to
              and this is how Khan would fight Marquez if ever they met.


              I think Nacho knows this and that is why he declined.

              Seldom do I see a very good thread posted by someone in red by good thread

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              • The Gully Gad
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                #8
                Originally posted by El Cabron
                JMM and Nacho should demand Olympic style drug testing
                I agree then the fight would make sense...

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                • KiloTeague
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                  I don't think it's as easy to do what Mayweather does as it looks. Marquez, at least IMHO is still a very much live opponent until proven otherwise. Khan would impress me if he wins this one.
                  I agree, if Khan can beat Marquez I'll be surprised and impressed. Marquez is a great 135lb fighter, who is a bonafied warrior and with no chance of being stopped( evident through his fights with May and Pac) and Khan is a good 140lb fighter who is long and rangey and chinny.

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                  • The Gully Gad
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                    #10
                    Nacho as written off JMM way to early..
                    Yeh i reckon Khan would win but JMM would stand a chance at any point in that fight from start to finish 1 decent shot just 1...

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