Prime Cotto > Mayweather.. Real Talk!!!!!!

[UnDeniable]

Cotto 2006/7 would have beaten Mayweather. Body shot and would have broken him. At worse he gives a SD to Floyd.

Cotto is good but Floyd is one of the best fighters of the last 30 years

He'll prove it later this year when he beats the man who prison ****d Cotto

[El Castigador]

We don't know but what we do know was in 2007 Mayweather was really ducking Margarito and Cotto. They asked Mayweather who is his own boss on several occasion, do he wants to fight Magarito and Cotto. All Floyd could say are, they are not US fighter, they are not a draw, we not fighting to see who the best is, etc.

NOT TRUE.

He told Marg to his FACE that I will fight you when its a bigger fight. Marg went on to lose to a prospect named Paul Williams in his own backyard.

He told Cotto to be hos won boss and hed fight him. Cotto declined.

[savorduhflavor]

NOT TRUE.

He told Marg to his FACE that I will fight you when its a bigger fight. Marg went on to lose to a prospect named Paul Williams in his own backyard.

He told Cotto to be hos won boss and hed fight him. Cotto declined.

Don't be ****** Burner. That is an absurd request.

Ok, so Floyd will only fight you if you don't have a promoter? Is that a reasonable demand?

I like Floyd, and I don't think he necessarily "ducked" Cotto. But that's a ******ed excuse.

[Horus]

2007-2008

His prime was cut short by the Margarito beating.

And that Cotto....would have been a very tough fight for Floyd. I see Floyd winning, but I think it'd be a little closer than the Oscar fight, but kind of similar.

So Cotto prime was for 1 year basically?

[Calilloyd]

Mayweather knew this, thats why he didnt take the fight!!! I think even the Cotto of today beats Mayweather! He would have beat floyd like he beat Zab and this is coming from a Mexican!

That's intersting considering that Cotto turned down this fight at 140 as a champion because he wasn't "ready". 140 was where Cotto was at his best in my opinion.

[UnDeniable]

NOT TRUE.

He told Marg to his FACE that I will fight you when its a bigger fight. Marg went on to lose to a prospect named Paul Williams in his own backyard.

He told Cotto to be hos won boss and hed fight him. Cotto declined.

Floyd is set to face Margaritos papi

He's also actively pursuing a fight with Cotto's daddy

Things have turned out great

[savorduhflavor]

So Cotto prime was for 1 year basically?

From when he moved up to '47, (late '06) to the Margarito fight (July '08)

Yea, he had a very, very short prime.

[El Castigador]

Floyd is set to face Margaritos papi

He's also actively pursuing a fight with Cotto's daddy

Things have turned out great

Exactly......

[Horus]

Horus
1/24/2010
Bringing you the facts series. VOL. 1

BOB ARUM: "MAYWEATHER would have taken the $8 million to fight MARGARITO."

If the title of this thread is a surprising to you, honestly I can not blame you..
How Could you Know that BOB ARUM actually said these words, with the
the anybody can write an article or create a boxing website boxing media always telling you something different.!!

With alot of revisionist history being played around with on these boards, I wanted bring the facts about one situation in our not to far past that has somehow became a truth with no facts to support it's argument.

How did this happen?
I would argue one of them is the lack of integrity by the anybody can write an article boxing media. Fueled by the contempt that alot of these writers in the media had and have for the Mayweathers.

As a result to this day we have ignorant boxing fans repeating lies they heard and read their favorite writer write on their bias websites. Thus creating atmosphere of unwarranted hate, based on in large part jealousy.

Jealousy of one man's success compared to their own, or compared to their favorite fighters. So the response alot of these writers took was destroying the facts in order to affect the reality. As a result, by in large they succeeded. They flooded the market with the same lines over and over again without any reguard for facts, because their purpose was to destroy one fighters reputation and legacy while hoping to enhance and build another fighters name.

HERE ARE THE FACTS in BOB ARUMS own WORDS!!!

This is quotes from a espn article from 2006

Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.


Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight.

However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked.

What Arum wouldn't do, he said,was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
($10M Miguel Cotto and $10M Ricky Hatton)

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

So the question is, How can BOB ARUM saying from his own mouth that
"Floyd Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito"
be turn into anything other than that.

As we understand the situation today, if you listening to some in the boxing media

• "Mayweather turn down the Margarito fight out of fear."
• "Mayweather ducked Margarito"
• "Mayweather would not even take 8 million to fight Margarito"
• "Mayweather alaways duck Fighters like Margarito,Cotto, etc.."

My question is WHEN and WHERE DID ALL THIS DUCKING START AND WHY DID IT START????

The answer is simple, it started when The boxing media and ignorant decided to run away from the facts and instead create their own reality.
The reality they wanted people to believe was that what Floyd Mayweather has done in his career was in large part based on his cherry picking, and his willingness not to fight fighters like MARGARITO in order to stay undefeated!!!!

I must say, from a effectiveness standpoint it has worked, because no matter what facts I or anybody else could show some of you guys. Alot of you guys will never believe anything other than Mayweather is a ducker and you will used examples like Margarito. When in reality, Mayweather never ducked Margarito. In fact he would have accepted the contract if BOB ARUM would have just guranted $10M for Cotto and $10M for Hatton.
Infact Arum wanted to offer Mayweather less money for Cotto and Hatton rather than Margarito....

What was the logic behind that???

$8M for Margarito but
$7M for Cotto and Hatton????

Add in to the fact if Mayweather would have fought Margarito he would have most likely not fought De la hoya...


IMO, Looking how history played out I believe Mayweather made the correct decision in opting out of his TOP RANK contract to go after a fight with De la hoya. In which he made $ 25M. In addition to going after Hatton when he made $20M.


funny thing is here is what Arum what use to say about Floyd before Floyd left him:




http://www.youtube.com/user/barlog20#p/f/3/_tma-5riGoc

[THE REED]

Jesus Christ Horus