jmm shouldn't be considered a 4 division champion just because some fans don't think khan is better than bradley?? thats ridiculous,pacman beat one of the worst champs in david diaz...is anybody saying that doesn't count?..juanma beat ponce without fighting the established champ in caballero,and?...these are opinions,if they fight he be champ if he wins,good or bad champ he will be champ...who did floyd beat to become jr welter champ? who was champ then? who were the other champs?
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Yes, the ones from Diaz and Cotto are. I wouldn't put JMM in the class of Barrera and Morales with just a win over Khan even if it's for a fourth title because he's so vulnerable. To me, it's only being fair. He should fight Bradley to go past them legacy wise and I'm not a JMM hater at all.Comment
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Exactly...Good post.jmm shouldn't be considered a 4 division champion just because some fans don't think khan is better than bradley?? thats ridiculous,pacman beat one of the worst champs in david diaz...is anybody saying that doesn't count?..juanma beat ponce without fighting the established champ in caballero,and?...these are opinions,if they fight he be champ if he wins,good or bad champ he will be champ...who did floyd beat to become jr welter champ? who was champ then? who were the other champs?Comment
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Shaw nailed it in describing Golden Boy Promotions. And with Ortiz scheduled to fight Nate Campbell, a newly signed GB fighter, just further vindicates Shaws Statement. Oscar Delahoya was never afraid to take on the Best fighters and has quite a few Defeats to prove it, But his fighters seem to want to take an easier path to stardom. I truly believe that Oscar Delahoya would of left Golden Boy if he were boxing Today, the same way he left Arum. Would Delahoya pull an Amir Khan and claim he cannot fight the best fighters because his trainer and Promoters dont want him too? Hell No! But he continues to this for his Fighters, unless of course they fight other GoldenBoy Boxers, where the outcome is already decided and Golden Boy keeps all the money. Its Time for Golden Boy to Man Up and take a lesson from the Vato who started the ***ing company and quit acting like a bunch of Nancyboys afraid to lose. I still have hope for Delahoya and think he can be turned from the Dark Side(Corporate Pansy), back into a Fighter who now runs a company.Comment
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school Angulo? Verno?? If he runs and hugs for half the fight, throws sissy punches and hug right after that, and stays the hell away from Angulo.... he wins. If you call that " schooling ", ok. Now, if he fights like a Mexican, meaning by that like a man and only hugs when strictly necessary and still is able to beat Angulo.... kudos for him.Comment
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First of gbp is not protecting JMM. JMM already fought the best guy pbf and he didn't pussied out he was the one that called him. JMM has been practically begging to fight pacquiao the p4p guy and he don't want none of him guess which company is pacquiao from. At this point JMM is trying to get the most meaninful fight with the most money and why would he fight bradley when bradley don't bring enough money. I agree khan and maidana are protected by gbp and ortiz well after he lost they are not going to trow him out with a good boxer specially the best one in the division it doesn't make sense at all.Gary Shaw just went in on GBP and he is right. Angulo would beat the **** outta Lara and even at that Angulo has a fight signed while there are tons of matchups out there for Lara.
Also Gary is on point by bringing up GBP ducking Timothy Bradley. GBP would never put Khan, Ortiz, Marquez, and Diaz in the ring with Bradley which is a cowardly move by Oscar and Co.
To top rank arum is the most hypocrite ***** i hate that old ****er all he is is talk. There is no way in hell he will put valero with bradley so bradley can school him and valero could lose his ko streak which means hype from the media. Come on this is the guy that won't match lopez, chavez, gamboa with any serious threats. Last i heard caballero is making a mockery of lopez calling him a ***** fake puertorican because other boxers like cotto would take the challenge but still lopez just tucks in his tail and don't want none. Not to mention why didn't arum matched pacquiao with bradley who has pacquiaos kryptonite??? out of the two top rank is the one that protects the **** out of their fightersComment
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You are obviously still wet behind the ears if that is how you describe a Phillips fight.school Angulo? Verno?? If he runs and hugs for half the fight, throws sissy punches and hug right after that, and stays the hell away from Angulo.... he wins. If you call that " schooling ", ok. Now, if he fights like a Mexican, meaning by that like a man and only hugs when strictly necessary and still is able to beat Angulo.... kudos for him.Comment
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I had posted a comment couple days ago this is the new era of boxing and is pretty ****ing gay. All the fighters want alot of money for little risk they are all becoming a bunch of ******* but at the end of the day whos fault is it if not the promoters. DLH always fought the best out there to me the only losses that should of been on his record pbf, hopkins, mosley 1, and pacquiao on his prime only 1 defeat which was mosley 1 on the trinidad and mosley 2 fight he got ****d by the judges. after him nobody had done that every superstar boxer either picks his opponent or makes certain clauses like weight, money or a bunch of bull****.Shaw nailed it in describing Golden Boy Promotions. And with Ortiz scheduled to fight Nate Campbell, a newly signed GB fighter, just further vindicates Shaws Statement. Oscar Delahoya was never afraid to take on the Best fighters and has quite a few Defeats to prove it, But his fighters seem to want to take an easier path to stardom. I truly believe that Oscar Delahoya would of left Golden Boy if he were boxing Today, the same way he left Arum. Would Delahoya pull an Amir Khan and claim he cannot fight the best fighters because his trainer and Promoters dont want him too? Hell No! But he continues to this for his Fighters, unless of course they fight other GoldenBoy Boxers, where the outcome is already decided and Golden Boy keeps all the money. Its Time for Golden Boy to Man Up and take a lesson from the Vato who started the ***ing company and quit acting like a bunch of Nancyboys afraid to lose. I still have hope for Delahoya and think he can be turned from the Dark Side(Corporate Pansy), back into a Fighter who now runs a company.
Like I said before Golden Boy Promotions is not that bad like top rank. Top rank is the one that always protects his fighters and protects them like if they were little ****** girls. This is the company that puts chavez on ppv with a sorry as boxer and always put in lopez with bums until recently but yet don't want none of caballero.Comment
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JMM is classes above barrera and morales no disrespect to them they are good boxers but JMM out of the two on his prime he was the better boxer overall, but hold on it don't surprise me you think more famous boxers are better last time i checked fame don't make boxers.Yes, the ones from Diaz and Cotto are. I wouldn't put JMM in the class of Barrera and Morales with just a win over Khan even if it's for a fourth title because he's so vulnerable. To me, it's only being fair. He should fight Bradley to go past them legacy wise and I'm not a JMM hater at all.
JMM always wanted a fight with the best nobody wanted him because it was such high risk little reward JMM was always in the shadows of barrera and morales but look at his accomplishments they are great. I mean this is the guy that was on his 30's and gave pacquiao the boxing lessons of his life what does that tell you?? Beating khan would give him a 4th title and still khan is not an easy fight for JMM because of his weight and age remember he didn't looked good at 147 maybe when JMM test the waters 140 and if he feels good and beats khan then he will go for bradley or either retire. I don't have a problem JMM fighting khan instead of bradley since JMM is unproven at 140 so pretty obvious when you go to a new division youre not going to try it out with the best boxer in that division is pretty common sense specially when the other boxer don't bring money.
I have a problem with pacquiao supposedly the best fighter in the worl don't want to face bradley a serious threath that i do have a problem specially pacquiao is already proven at 140 and 147 but let me guess if he was to fight him he probably would of requested bradley to ballon up to 147.Comment
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