Does anyone want to discuss Edwin Valero?

[MARKBNLV]

You weren't a little bit surprised/impressed by his elusiveness and command of range?

His foot and hand speed were impressive but there are a ton of leaks in his game jmm would ko him in 5 or less.

[El Castigador]

Plus his power is above average at best Demarco was taking clean lefts without flinching.

Naw he felt those punches thats why he was scared to throw. If he could take his punches then DeMarco wouldnt have quit.

[El 7 Mares V.2]

Valero is a force to be reckoned with at 135lbs, could possibly do very well at 140 also. I think his power has been a little bit overrated but the man can punch and has the resume to prove it. He has a lot of flaws on his game though, I thought DeMarco would expose some of them and pull a win but my boy was never in the fight.

I think a guy like Bradley could give Valero hell at 140, even a puncher like Urango. The few good shots DeMarco got through Valero he seemed to take well so he's definitely not glass chined like many people thought.

[El Castigador]

His foot and hand speed were impressive but there are a ton of leaks in his game jmm would ko him in 5 or less.

lol. JMM would get beat senseless by Valero. JMM likes to trade and go to war. He went to war and was put on ***** street by a feather fisted Diaz. Vzalero stops him Early.

[El 7 Mares V.2]

His foot and hand speed were impressive but there are a ton of leaks in his game jmm would ko him in 5 or less.

No way in hell does JMM KO's Valero, sure he might pick a couple of good shots but Valero is too agressive and too big of a puncher for old JMM to deal with, Valero breaks him down specially if he gets the best of JMM and starts to brawl with him.

[MARKBNLV]

Naw he felt those punches thats why he was scared to throw. If he could take his punches then DeMarco wouldnt have quit.

He had trouble with the handspeed not the power so much the kid was outclassed in the fight plain and simple,but that win in no way makes me think he is a future king of the division,there are many top guys from 135-140 i just dont see him beating the upper ecelon guys.

[black.ink]

I'll definitely look at it tonight, thanks for the tip.

I agree that his power - from what I've seen - doesn't look as devastating as his KO ratio would attest.

Then again, let's not forget that Matt Skelton has over 80% KOs on his ledger.

Skelton is a beast. True story.

[MARKBNLV]

No way in hell does JMM KO's Valero, sure he might pick a couple of good shots but Valero is too agressive and too big of a puncher for old JMM to deal with, Valero breaks him down specially if he gets the best of JMM and starts to brawl with him.

He would get countered all night long jmm would make him look foolish if this fight were to go off and they favored Valero i would bet my paycheck on it like i did in the the trinidad hopkins fight.

[MARKBNLV]

lol. JMM would get beat senseless by Valero. JMM likes to trade and go to war. He went to war and was put on ***** street by a feather fisted Diaz. Vzalero stops him Early.

Who has this hype job beaten Khan has a far better resume then him and hes a hype job as well.

[S.G.]

i AGREE HE IS OPEN FOR COUNTERS CONSTANTLY ,HE THROWS OFF BALANCE A LOT,PLUS HE IS A ONE HANDED FIGHTER THE TOP 3 IN THE DIVISION SMOKE HIM.

DeMarco was waiting all night for the counters to be fair and in the end Valero's offense served as his defense. DeMarco was generally too busy covering up and absorbing damage to take advantage of the counter opportunities presented. A better boxer may be more able to exploit them but Valero isn't the finished article yet either.

His foot and hand speed were impressive but there are a ton of leaks in his game jmm would ko him in 5 or less.

Marquez would beat him at this point, I agree. But like I said, Valero isn't a finished product yet, he still has technical flaws to iron out and dues to pay before he's quite ready for someone of Marquez's class.

I liked his upperbody movement and reflexes also though. He seemed at times to have that instinct a lot of the topmost boxers have where he can predict when his opponents gonna throw before they have even decided to themselves.