How far has Mexican boxing fallen?

[S.G.]

Not even superstars, man. Just fighters that have impressive wins on their records and can compete with the very best fighters in the world. JMM isn't a huge superstar but he is a great fighter and compete with the very best. I love JMM and realize he is an amazing fighter but where is the next JMM, I just don't see many prospects stringing together impressive wins or creating a buzz.

Yeah I get that - that's what I meant. I'm basically saying you can only pick up wins as impressive as the guys around you, and it's well documented that there isn't the depth of talent in boxing currently as we've been lucky enough to experience in the past. I also think Mexican boxing and boxing in general is in something of a transition period and will inevitably boom again in the next few years.

The evolution of a prospect into a star can be quite subtle and I have faith in the current batch of Mexican youngsters coming good.

Hell, I hear more about British prospects more than I hear about Mexican prospects right now.

That's just cos we're fucking loudmouths

[Shadows]

For the most part, yes. Where are the great Mexican fighters that go above and beyond their tiny divisions to capture the attention of the world? Whens the last huge Mexican upset. Lets take for an example if DeMarco won last night that would be a great victory for a guy that would be looked at as one of the next great Mexican fighters but he lost. Whens the last time Mexico had a great victory like that outside of the Margarito victory. To me it just seems like Mexican boxing is no where up to the level it was in the 90s. I rarely hear about Mexican prospects unless your name is Saul. I'm just saying it seems like Mexican boxing is down atm.

What exactly do you mean by go beyond their tiny world and capture the attention of the world?

Also, I don't necessarily understand what huge upsets have to do with the problem? Are you saying that a Mexican fighter will only become great if he scores an upset? I like DeMarco, but had he won last night, I wouldn't have automatically pegged him as a future great. There's also a good chance his win would've been played down as people would've ridiculed Valero.

May 22nd--Abner Mares fights Yonnhy Perez on the Rafa-Izzy undercard. He's a prospect/contender to look out for.

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What exactly do you mean by go beyond their tiny world and capture the attention of the world?

Also, I don't necessarily understand what huge upsets have to do with the problem? Are you saying that a Mexican fighter will only become great if he scores an upset? I like DeMarco, but had he won last night, I wouldn't have automatically pegged him as a future great. There's also a good chance his win would've been played down as people would've ridiculed Valero.

May 22nd--Abner Mares fights Yonnhy Perez on the Rafa-Izzy undercard. He's a prospect/contender to look out for.

What I mean by going beyond their tiny division is a guy that can go beyond one division and create a big buzz by being one of the top fighters, not only in his divisions but a top fighter in the world. Being a good fighter with one of the paper belts in a division is great and all but the real good fighters accomplish a lot more. As for DeMarco you are right that it could be downplayed but it would still stir stuff up and give us a legit fighter from Mexico that we could say "wow, this guy beat a guy with an impressive name, he's a guy that we should look forward to in the future and see if he can progress into a bigger name". I

As for Mares, if he wins that fight that would be one of those good wins that I'm talking about. Beating a guy that has beat some good fighters(that we know that are legit) and also a guy that is young and promising. Guys like Mares are exactly what I expect from Mexican boxing but it seems like there isn't so many of them right now.

[Shadows]

What I mean by going beyond their tiny division is a guy that can go beyond one division and create a big buzz by being one of the top fighters, not only in his divisions but a top fighter in the world. Being a good fighter with one of the paper belts in a division is great and all but the real good fighters accomplish a lot more. As for DeMarco you are right that it could be downplayed but it would still stir stuff up and give us a legit fighter from Mexico that we could say "wow, this guy beat a guy with an impressive name, he's a guy that we should look forward to in the future and see if he can progress into a bigger name". I

As for Mares, if he wins that fight that would be one of those good wins that I'm talking about. Beating a guy that has beat some good fighters(that we know that are legit) and also a guy that is young and promising. Guys like Mares are exactly what I expect from Mexican boxing but it seems like there isn't so many of them right now.

Okay; I understand your opinion better. When you put it that way, I agree, but only to a small degree, as I think "fallen" is a bit harsh. There realy aren't any fighters like that at the moment in their prime.

Having said that, the era of Barrera, Morales, JMM, Izzy, Rafa, etc. Has ended, or will soon. Give the next wave sometime to make their mark. I may fully agree if there aren't any in a few years.

[xcaret v3]

im mexican and i agree with you %100... im depressed, i love to the sport and what could be worse then having your own people lose all their big fights? we need more fighters with real hearts not from paper.

[Da Hammer]

Our youngsters are there with tons of potential! Now its up to them and their camps to fully prepare them slowly up the ranks to make them into the new stars of the sport. We just need to be patient i think by 2011 we will see a couple of them step up and have their shot to be in the P4P ranks. Alvarez will be the first!

[LoveDoctor]

Honestly, Mexican boxing is in shambles at the moment. Alverez is the next hope but if he doesn't pan out if looks very bleak for the Mexican fight fans. It just makes me wonder after last night what went wrong, because Mexico used to be one of the most productive countries in the sport of boxing. What's up with Mexicans quitting over the last few years too? Used to never see that and now you have seen it in many bouts. Lets discuss the state of Mexican boxing.

Abner Mares will come to the rescue, he's a Mexico native. He was born in Jalisco. The kid's got great skills and is on his way to the top should he get by his big upcoming fight.

[Konstantin]

Everyone is roiding but the Mexicans! That's why they fallen back in recent times!

[407BoriKua]

na knowing mexicans they will be back and soon by next year or so youll hear about alot of them coming up to the top. They are just like us ricans in the sense that there will always be alot more talent coming

[PensionKiller]

The link of the champs is good, but I agree that mexican boxing doesn;t seem to have that 1 P4P star anymore.

Well Izzy and Rafael aren't doing much.

JMM is kinda up there but old