Toney: Going with the doctor excuse.

[The Pretender]

The Klitchkos, RJJ, Vargas...they did it, they're back. Toney will as well.

When did they juice for a fight...show me where they tested positive?

[SnoopySmurf]

When did they juice for a fight...show me where they tested positive?

Vargas got caught after his bout with Hoya. The others, I'm just going by what I've heard.

[spinksjinx]

heresay means nothing and holds no value.

RJJ-Tested positive because of ripped fuel and nasal spray and ripped fuel at the time contained ephedra and MOST nasal sprays contain small amounts of steroids. Besides the steroid Roy tested positive for was not an Anabolic steroid.

Klitschkos-Wlad never heard about it in my life. However, Vitali was/is very open to the subject and admits it in full detail and even dedicated a section about it in his book. Plus it was in the amateurs and he was suspended from the Olympics and he didnt throw a fuss about it he took it with great stride and proved he had integrity. He took the bad with the good.

Vargas-Well everybody knows that story.

[The Pretender]

Vargas got caught after his bout with Hoya. The others, I'm just going by what I've heard.

That's called hearsay and inadmissable in any defense. I don't know anything about Vargas. I do know that Ruiz the true champ and Phoney the true chump.

[SnoopySmurf]

That's called hearsay and inadmissable in any defense. I don't know anything about Vargas. I do know that Ruiz the true champ and Phoney the true chump.

Now you know about Vargas.