DISGUSTING! You posers supporting a CHEATING Toney make me sick.

[legend]

Boyo, you need to use smaller words. Your linguistic skills aren't developed enough for your vocabulary. It makes you sound like an idiot.

As far as Ruiz fighting fairly, let me point out that he could have been disqualified for excessive holding in seven out of eight title fights. That much fouling doesn't sound exactly fair to me.

Now for this steroids business. I'll say up front, I'm no expert on steroids, but I do know that the chemical found in his body is produced naturally in miniscule amounts, and I also know that it's easily detected. Don't you think it's curious that Toney, after sixteen years and seventy four fights, would choose to use a drug that he couldn't get away with using right before the biggest fight of his career? And still come into the ring looking fat? Don't you find that the least bit strange? I do. I think the state comission is wrong, I think Toney will sue over this, and I think he will win hit title and the W back in court.

I believe he likely never knew about the steroid. There is a good chance that it was medication. However, Toney just can't get a free pass because of it. Hell, if Toney got off on this, every fighter from here to eternity would just say it was "medication". These suspensions and stripping of titles also serve to teach a lesson to other fighters who may be juicing. I have legitimate excuses all the time for **** I do wrong, but I still get punished.

[whdempsey]

I believe he likely never knew about the steroid. There is a good chance that it was medication. However, Toney just can't get a free pass because of it. Hell, if Toney got off on this, every fighter from here to eternity would just say it was "medication". These suspensions and stripping of titles also serve to teach a lesson to other fighters who may be juicing. I have legitimate excuses all the time for **** I do wrong, but I still get punished.

No, I wasn't suggesting that he was taking steroids and din't know it, I was suggesting the drug test gave a faulty positive reading, due to the reasons he gave in his press realease.

[The Pretender]

Boyo, you need to use smaller words. Your linguistic skills aren't developed enough for your vocabulary. It makes you sound like an idiot.

As far as Ruiz fighting fairly, let me point out that he could have been disqualified for excessive holding in seven out of eight title fights. That much fouling doesn't sound exactly fair to me.

Now for this steroids business. I'll say up front, I'm no expert on steroids, but I do know that the chemical found in his body is produced naturally in miniscule amounts, and I also know that it's easily detected. Don't you think it's curious that Toney, after sixteen years and seventy four fights, would choose to use a drug that he couldn't get away with using right before the biggest fight of his career? And still come into the ring looking fat? Don't you find that the least bit strange? I do. I think the state comission is wrong, I think Toney will sue over this, and I think he will win hit title and the W back in court.

Well if the words I use have too many syllables and are confusing you, take a few breaks in between posts and use a thesaurus. I'm not going to downshift so "special" kids like you can catch up.

Gotta love it when someone professes their ignorance regarding steroids, then in the same breath preaches about its science. Thanks for destroying your own credibility and saving me the time of doing it for you.

Ruiz is champ, time to get over it.

[SnoopySmurf]

RJJ beat Ruiz fair and square as far as I know. I just think he was a punk for vacating rather than accepting a mandatory rematch.

Rematch? Ruiz would have lost again and people would say it was a waste of time for RJJ to give Ruiz a second chance. Ruiz is the laughing stock of boxing. Even other boxers don't respect him.

You guys realize that Pretender is being sarcastic, right? He's not really a Ruiz fan. It's like a parody of a genuine fan of a talented boxer. He's playing the role of a fan of the sorriest boxer in the history of boxing.

[The Pretender]

^^^

Oh suuuure he would have won a rematch. That's why he vacated the belt with 0 defenses rather than fight a mandatory rematch with Ruiz. A real mark of confidence there! Roy takes rematches only when he thinks he can win...guess it backfired when Tarver KTFO his ass!

[SnoopySmurf]

Ruiz would have lost in the rematch. He's truly the pretender and not a champion.

[The Pretender]

Take another good look at my avatar. The world's most powerful man knows Ruiz the true champ. Roy will never get a photo op with the president because he ducked Ruiz rematch, got KTFO by two average fighters, and retired like a *****.

[SnoopySmurf]

Take another good look at my avatar. The world's most powerful man knows Ruiz the true champ. Roy will never get a photo op with the president because he ducked Ruiz rematch, got KTFO by two average fighters, and retired like a *****.

He still would have lost to RJJ.

[Truth]

He still would have lost to RJJ.

I agree Roy was too fast and skilled and would have beat Ruiz again.

[LuKahnLi]

Take another good look at my avatar. The world's most powerful man knows Ruiz the true champ. Roy will never get a photo op with the president because he ducked Ruiz rematch, got KTFO by two average fighters, and retired like a *****.

Yeah, that is the same guy who doesn't believe in evolution. OH I really trust his judgement!

Once more, if you like Ruiz, then you don't like boxing. If you are calling Toney a cheater because of a drug test, then where were your cries of 'cheater' in EVERY Ruiz fight. Cuz Ruis cheats in EVERY one of his fights. Clinching is a FOUL. Using your head is a FOUL. He does this in every fight, without it he would be NOTHING.