Comments Thread For: Mayweather Takes Verbal Shots at Pacquiao and Mosley

[mrjoeblive]

floyd says he doesn't need pacquiao but he kept on bashing pacquiao to sell his fight. he's riding on pacquiao's popularity knowing that his popularity (unpopularity) rating has gone down to the septic tank.

to those that know me by my post please excuse me this is to the knight only. how is floyd riding pacs popularity? all floyds ppvs have outsold pacs and floyd holds the all time record with ODLH for most ppvs sold for one fight. if pac was so much more popular his fight with ODLH should have outsold floyds,his fight with hatton should have outsold floyds, his fight with jmm should have outsold floyds but they didnt. so check the numbers before you make statements that can easily be proved or disproved. just a suggestion.

[mrjoeblive]

You do realize that the certificate that Hawaii certified was not the original copy of his birth certificate, so if you wanted to get technical which is the job of attorneys, you could argue that he didn't present his original birth certificate. Either way I could care less, I think what he has presented is more than enough and I voted for him on top of that. I could care less if he was born here or not. I prefer intelligence over some nationalistic ideology anyway.

I also agree with you that the integrity of the sport could be drastically enhanced, but it needs to start with a uniform national commission, such as the one proposed by John McCain. But let's get real Mayweather supporters didn't care about this issue before until they read a press release a few months ago. It's like one day they woke up and found a cause to fight for, when they clearly didn't give a **** about it before but now they do and the rest of us are supposed to buy into that nonsense?

I never once heard half of the posters on here who are Mayweather supporters ever once--I'm talking about not once ever utter any concern about PEDs, until a few months ago. Talk about piggy backing causes.

hey switch, i allways enjoy your post but on this one i think it works two ways. most of the people that critique floyds record seem to be repeating things they heard on yahoo or on boxing scene. but i do think a frank conversation about peds in boxing need to happen and real quick

[switchsouthpaw]

hey switch, i allways enjoy your post but on this one i think it works two ways. most of the people that critique floyds record seem to be repeating things they heard on yahoo or on boxing scene. but i do think a frank conversation about peds in boxing need to happen and real quick

Thanks Joe and I appreciate that we can have a discussion/debate about our disagreements, without resorting to insulting each other. I would say respectfully that I don't think I fall into the category of those who regurgitate what they've read. When I make a statement I really try to be as careful and prepared as possible and offer my informed opinion. I respect that PEDs is an important issue to be tackled in all of sports. I just disagree with how to do and why it was specifically chosen as a negotiation tactic for Mayweather, obviously I don't trust his motivations behind anything but that's my personal opinion and I'm entitled to it. My main concern lies with the creation of a standard national boxing commission, similar to the one they have in professional baseball, that would oversee boxing. But I doubt the highest grossing boxers and promoters in the sport, along with HBO--would go along with that idea.

[Fighting Marine]

Manny is exciting to watch. Mayweather is boring as hell. That is why pacquiao fans outnumber mayweather fans 20 to 1. 100% god, no steroids. That is all.

you're obviously not a boxing fan...if you don't appreciate Floyd Mayweather's fights than you sir are just a pac nutthugger

[DiegoFuego]

Pac should not have taken the test.

For example: if a black man becomes partner a a law firm, and one of the white partners doesn't think he got the promotion based on performance, but because he's black, and insist that he takes the bar exam over to prove it, does he do it. NO!

Its about principle, not about trying to prove someone wrong. Floyd should have tried to clean up the sport when he was fighting Gatti, Baldomir, Judah, Dela Hoya etc.

but Pacquiao never took the test in the first place. Ask any doctor, he's hiding something by walking away from the test

[Kampung.Boy]

PBF said he doesn't need Pac, but he's been using his name to promote his last two fights. Now, who's the bigger star?

right on man! evertime he goes on tv or radio to promote his fight, he always use pacquiao to get some attention. every ****ing time!

[sapaw]

you're obviously not a boxing fan...if you don't appreciate Floyd Mayweather's fights than you sir are just a pac nutthugger

If you appreciates PBF's fights, then Im not surprise if you LOVE TELENOVELAs and fashion shows! lol

[thatnickuh]

Thanks Joe and I appreciate that we can have a discussion/debate about our disagreements, without resorting to insulting each other. I would say respectfully that I don't think I fall into the category of those who regurgitate what they've read. When I make a statement I really try to be as careful and prepared as possible and offer my informed opinion. I respect that PEDs is an important issue to be tackled in all of sports. I just disagree with how to do and why it was specifically chosen as a negotiation tactic for Mayweather, obviously I don't trust his motivations behind anything but that's my personal opinion and I'm entitled to it. My main concern lies with the creation of a standard national boxing commission, similar to the one they have in professional baseball, that would oversee boxing. But I doubt the highest grossing boxers and promoters in the sport, along with HBO--would go along with that idea.

Your focus on Mayweather's motivations only exposes your bias concerning his issue. Why should Mayweather's motivations matter to you as a boxing fan? Having fighters submit to random blood testing goes further to ensure that both fighters are clean and that the fights is fair. That's all you should be concerned about as a true boxing fan. Your position really doesn't make any sense. You say that you're all for enhancing the drug testing system in boxing, so why not be for it for this fight? I'll take as many "cleaner" fights as I can get until the current drug testing system in boxing is updated. It's almost as if some of you suspect that Pacquiao is dirty and know that random blood testing would give Mayweather an advantage. If that's the case then it's just sad. The only way that random blood testing would be a benefit for either fighter, is if the other fighter is dirty. I simply don't see how any true boxing fan can excuse Pacquiao not complying with the random blood testing. You can't say that you're all for enhancing the drug testing system in boxing and make excuses for Pacquiao at the same time.

[switchsouthpaw]

Your focus on Mayweather's motivations only exposes your bias concerning his issue. Why should Mayweather's motivations matter to you as a boxing fan? Having fighters submit to random blood testing goes further to ensure that both fighters are clean and that the fights is fair. That's all you should be concerned about as a true boxing fan. Your position really doesn't make any sense. You say that you're all for enhancing the drug testing system in boxing, so why not be for it for this fight? I'll take as many "cleaner" fights as I can get until the current drug testing system in boxing is updated. It's almost as if some of you suspect that Pacquiao is dirty and know that random blood testing would give Mayweather an advantage. If that's the case then it's just sad. The only way that random blood testing would be a benefit for either fighter, is if the other fighter is dirty. I simply don't see how any true boxing fan can excuse Pacquiao not complying with the random blood testing. You can't say that you're all for enhancing the drug testing system in boxing and make excuses for Pacquiao at the same time.

My bias is exposed along with the likes of Dougie Fischer,Bert Sugar,Dan Rafael and Larry Merchant among a few other notable observers, so I would say I'm in good company.

In addition your question as to why I should care about Mayweather's motivations and why should it matter to me as a fan? The same way Mayweather fans argue about PPV sales and money, it shouldn't matter to them as boxing fans either correct?

To be clear I think Pac is innocent...you know why? Follow the bouncing ball here...because he hasn't been proven guilty of anything, it's called the presumption of innocence and it's the standard of law we follow. Now if the accusations came from regulatory body such as an athletic commission, then I would have su****ions because these individuals are professionals and educated-- I would listen to what they have to say. Why would I listen to Floyd Mayweather who has the intelligence of a fornica table top.

Let me ask you a question...what day did you specifically start caring about this issue and be honest? Have you ever commented in any post on this forum prior to the Mayweather/Pac proposed fight regarding your concerns about PEDs in boxing? Remember it's easy to find posts on this site, so be honest.

[tru2boxingfan]

To All Pacman supporters

I feel that people don't understand what promotion and marketing is about. Pacquiao is not going to be able to get through an interview with mentioning Mayweathers name. Even if he is trying to promote the fight. Neither is Mayweather.

I also feel that people dont know what the hell double standard means. Double Standard means any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another.

For Example: "Pacquiao's camp said Wednesday the Filipino star agreed to submit to blood tests within 24 days before the welterweight title bout, instead of cutting off tests 30 days before the fight as he first proposed." Mayweather compromises on his original request for random drug test and sets a cut off period for 14 days. Manny than counters with 24 days. Meaning he willing to take the drug test, so now when Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach make statements saying they want to fight Floyd, but only if the drug test is taking off the table is a complete double standard. They use NSAC to defend why the test doesn't happen saying Pacquiao has never failed a test, but other Fighters who were eventually caught using PEDS also past that same test.

Another Example: Mayweather comments on Mosley about having 5 losses and not being a big draw, anywhere else besides L.A. Mosley has a decent following now he may not be a mega-fight like Mayweather wanted, but the fight will at least draw over 1m ppv buys. Now he is fighting Mosley because he is the only other fighter out there with draw power to sell a Mayweather fight. It's completely double standard.

Final Example: Mosley claims "Mayweather is picking his fighters carefully and he is ducking me". Even though it is apart of pre-fight hype its still a complete double standard. If he was ducking Mosley he would have never challenge you before De La Hoya. If he was ducking Mosley he would have taken on another fight rather than fight Mosley. People claim he was back into this fight with Mosley, but I disagree. He could have easily blown him off and gave another young fighter an opportunity at a huge fight rather than fight Mosley.

The public demanded that Mayweather and Mosley happens, thats why Mayweather did it. Before Floyd even though about coming out of retirement, the public demanded Mayweather fights Pacquiao so when he came out of retirement he fights JMM for pre-fight hype.