Ending the Myth of Castillo and Mayweather Jr.

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Mayweather has fought with injuries many times but they only bothered him in the Castillo fight. Why? Because Castillo was about the best opponent he ever fought. He put on a lot of pressure, went to the body but he was also intelligent about the way he pressured Floyd, not like Hatton who just rushed in and mauled or Baldomir who was too slow to land a glove on Mayweather.

I don't think Mayweather fought such a great fight in the rematch either, Castillo simply didn't put up that great of an effort and didn't adjust any of his tactics. As good as he was, Castillo was no Duran or even a Pryor. Coming into the Mayweather fight he was thought of as the title holder who was a bit lucky to win against Stevie Johnston.

You ever had a torn rotator cuff?

So you give Floyd no credit?

Great.

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Whatever the reason was.. I still think he lost the first fight.

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Whatever the reason was.. I still think he lost the first fight.

Thats not what the thread is about. Its about everyone referencing that fight as if its the Holy Grail to beating Floyd when he fought with one arm.

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You ever had a torn rotator cuff?

So you give Floyd no credit?

Great.

I never said I didn't give him any credit. However he was able to outbox the likes of Carlos Baldomir, Carlos Hernandez, Zab Judah with injured hands and Victoriano Sosa with an injured shoulder. I also have no idea about the extent of Mayweather's injury against Castillo. He claimed he went into the fight with the injury, so it couldn't have been that bad. Only a fool would go into a fight with an injury that requires surgery.

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Thats not what the thread is about. Its about everyone referencing that fight as if its the Holy Grail to beating Floyd when he fought with one arm.

That's fine, I still think he lost that fight.

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No point in this Burner, plenty of people know Floyd was injured...they choose to ignore it though...

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I never said I didn't give him any credit. However he was able to outbox the likes of Carlos Baldomir, Carlos Hernandez, Zab Judah with injured hands and Victoriano Sosa with an injured shoulder. I also have no idea about the extent of Mayweather's injury against Castillo. He claimed he went into the fight with the injury, so it couldn't have been that bad. Only a fool would go into a fight with an injury that requires surgery.

Mayweather said he didnt want to pull out. I mean all you have to do is watch the first fight It doesnt even look like Floyd.

Hes fought through injuries before. True. But a torn rotator cuff is no joke. He toughed it out and did th best he could. When he was healthy he gave Castillo a lesson in counter punching. I just get irritated when people use that fight as the holy grail to beating Floyd when he had one arm and still won by one round on my card. Not to mention it was his first 135 Pound fight and he was fighting the best 135 Pounder in the world.

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No point in this Burner, plenty of people know Floyd was injured...they choose to ignore it though...

Exactly these people are amazing.

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Mayweather said he didnt want to pull out. I mean all you have to do is watch the first fight It doesnt even look like Floyd.

Why would he go into the fight with an injury that usually requires surgery though?

I don't think Mayweather is a coward by any means but he has always thought about the risk/reward ratio as most fighters do. He is not one to go into a fight with an injury that makes him basically one-armed. And to say he was one-armed during the fight is a bit of a stretch as he used both arms quite freely throughout the first fight.

It looked like Floyd to me but he was in there against a bigger, stronger opponent who was able to draw him into punching exchanges. This was probably Castillo at his very best, I've never seen him as fired up for any other fight except maybe the Corrales fight.



I must clarify that I'm not accusing Mayweather of making up the injury but I question the extent of it. It's not as if he was fighting with one arm hanging out, he was throwing punches with both hands. He wasn't 100% but fighters rarely are.

Hes fought through injuries before. True. But a torn rotator cuff is no joke. He toughed it out and did th best he could. When he was healthy he gave Castillo a lesson in counter punching. I just get irritated when people use that fight as the holy grail to beating Floyd when he had one arm and still won by one round on my card. Not to mention it was his first 135 Pound fight and he was fighting the best 135 Pounder in the world.

I think the second fight was still quite tough for Mayweather.

I agree that people should determine fighters based on their whole career but isn't this somewhat the same as you're doing with Duran? There are a ton of excuses that people make for his performance in the rematch against Leonard. I don't buy them but I don't think Mayweather's injury should completely excuse his performance against Castillo either. Castillo had something to do with that too.

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Why would he go into the fight with an injury that usually requires surgery though?

I don't think Mayweather is a coward by any means but he has always thought about the risk/reward ratio as most fighters do. He is not one to go into a fight with an injury that makes him basically one-armed. And to say he was one-armed during the fight is a bit of a stretch as he used both arms quite freely throughout the first fight.

It looked like Floyd to me but he was in there against a bigger, stronger opponent who was able to draw him into punching exchanges. This was probably Castillo at his very best, I've never seen him as fired up for any other fight except maybe the Corrales fight.



I must clarify that I'm not accusing Mayweather of making up the injury but I question the extent of it. It's not as if he was fighting with one arm hanging out, he was throwing punches with both hands. He wasn't 100% but fighters rarely are.



I think the second fight was still quite tough for Mayweather.

I agree that people should determine fighters based on their whole career but isn't this somewhat the same as you're doing with Duran? There are a ton of excuses that people make for his performance in the rematch against Leonard. I don't buy them but I don't think Mayweather's injury should completely excuse his performance against Castillo either. Castillo had something to do with that too.

The thing with Duran is that just pressure is not going to beat Floyd. Floyd has proven that in EVERY fight. They all try to pressure him and end up just looking ******. Duran had good boxing skills but no where near the boxing ability of Mayweather Jr. I mean lets just be real here.

Now against Mayweather. Duran would have to be ready to be moving for 12-15 rounds. MENTALLY he would have to come in the ring and be ready to BOX. Because Floyd UNLIKE SRL is not going toe to toe with him. Like in the first fight. SRL fought Durans fight.

He wont be in the same place more then 2 seconds. He will be moving, slipping punches, countering, clinching and more moving. Duran will be chasing and will be getting a boxing lesson. He does not have the boxing ability to out box Floyd and Floyds movement and counter punching will prevent Duran from bull rushing him. If he does try to bull rush his night will end early.

Floyd will not under ANY circumstances engage with Duran. Floyd takes a UD in my eyes.