My take on the steroids/peds issue

[BuckToothed]

The public doesn't want to find out or so it has been up untill very recently. Still an operation on a much bigger scale existed in procycling for well over a decade. Hundres of riders and probably more behind the scenes was involved. The public had su****ions for sure, but nobody did anything about it untill it was too obvious.

Manny is FOTD, so there is attention now. The fans are also splitted on the matter.
Can we say that it's obvious in Boxing now? Floyd is claiming that he wants to "clean-up" the sport.

[Alibata]

Your saying if Manny was a user there should be alot of nervous individuals right now.
Ariza? Roach? Kahn? Bienvenides? etc? The steroids allegation is straigh
bull****....

[BuckToothed]

Your saying if Manny was a user there should be alot of nervous individuals right now.

This would be too big for someone not to crack or get caught (doesn't have to be Manny, any of his known/unknown accomplices would do). History also tells us that it takes half the time to unfold a scandal from the one the preceeded it. Steroids/peds might be a step ahead of testing, but most plans are spoiled by the human factor.

[BattlingNelson]

true, but in the history of steroids, that's the only case that everyone involved was outed.

The Festina scandal in cycling in 1998 caused 2 year bans to the riders on the team. The director sportif went to jail.

[silkyjohnson]

Your saying if Manny was a user there should be alot of nervous individuals right now.
Ariza? Roach? Kahn? Bienvenides? etc? The steroids allegation is straigh
bull****....

Judging by their bull**** excuses, it doesn't seem too farfetched. Hell, it was really their dumbass excuses that brought forth more su****ion than Floyd Sr. should be given credit for.

If they would have been straight with the issue, this would have blown over by now. But they chose to use up every excuse in the book, entertain Floyd's proposition, and then turn around and walk away, even when Floyd came to more than accommodating terms.

[javelin_fangs]

Since all this steroids accusations are based on speculations, I would like to speculate on the matter from a different perspective.

Manny Pacquiao, Fighter of the Decade, if he is taking steroids/peds, wouldn't he need an accomplice and/or a supplier?
The guy is a boxer, who barely finished high school, can't be doing all this steroids to himself by himself.
If he is using state-of-the-art steroids that is undetectable by current standard testings, he must have a supplier.
If a supplier has such a product, they would have more than one customer.

The point is, there would be more people involve in this conspiracy and it's riskier for it to stay under wraps.
If Manny is on steroids, someone would have come out by now, with proof, and Manny would be in big trouble.
Not to mention the amount of money (i.e. book deals and exclusive interviews) to the first guy to break silence.

I'm not gonna bring up the he say, she say arguments and the guilty 'till proven innocent stance.
This is my take on the matter and believed that this is too big to stay secret. See BALCO, Conte, Mosley, Jones.

In order for it to come out someone would have to be looking. One of the reasons why so many athletes in the US started using steroids (and *******) in the 70s and 80s was because no one was looking. In fact, no one really started looking until about 2000 or so. Might it be possible that no one is looking for steroids in East Asia and the Pacific Islands just as no one was looking when Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire were the "Bash Brothers?"

[iHateThePacMan]

how can anyone believe floyd after all the BS that he is talking

- car being paid by loans
- IRS owe
-2lbs overweight at JMM

that against a person whos been clean for 10 years. Just move on nobody believes it anyways, its only the *****s and haters

[WhoreUs]

Since all this steroids accusations are based on speculations, I would like to speculate on the matter from a different perspective.

Manny Pacquiao, Fighter of the Decade, if he is taking steroids/peds, wouldn't he need an accomplice and/or a supplier?
The guy is a boxer, who barely finished high school, can't be doing all this steroids to himself by himself.
If he is using state-of-the-art steroids that is undetectable by current standard testings, he must have a supplier.
If a supplier has such a product, they would have more than one customer.

The point is, there would be more people involve in this conspiracy and it's riskier for it to stay under wraps.
If Manny is on steroids, someone would have come out by now, with proof, and Manny would be in big trouble.
Not to mention the amount of money (i.e. book deals and exclusive interviews) to the first guy to break silence.

I'm not gonna bring up the he say, she say arguments and the guilty 'till proven innocent stance.
This is my take on the matter and believed that this is too big to stay secret. See BALCO, Conte, Mosley, Jones.

my take:
it's over
Pac's fighting Clottey
Floyd seems to be fighting Mosley
get the fuck over it
the fighters have
fans should too

[IMDAZED]

This would be too big for someone not to crack or get caught (doesn't have to be Manny, any of his known/unknown accomplices would do). History also tells us that it takes half the time to unfold a scandal from the one the preceeded it. Steroids/peds might be a step ahead of testing, but most plans are spoiled by the human factor.

This is one of the weakest arguments I've ever heard. If Jose Canseco hadn't outed Mark McGwire, would we know today? It took 20-something years before Evander Holyfield was caught. And on, and on.

[sNiTcH]

If floyd wants to clean up sports why don't he proposed that to the commission?