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  • Cash Cow
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    #251
    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
    lol you want me to list a succession of fighters who were average, who at one time or another held titles either because of controversy,politics or because they claimed a vacant title?
    how many champions (who held belts @ that time) has miguel cotto beat in his proffesional career?

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      #252
      Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
      yes but he started out @ MW when he turned pro.....

      I have never heard of a guy trying to be great by moving down in divisions to chase smaller fighters...

      Manny moved up 7

      Floyd moved up 5.

      Williams moved down 2
      We are talking Natural weight. Winky could easlily fight lhw, mw, smw, but he fights more natural @ jmw. Same as Williams he fights more natural @ Junior Middleweight

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        #253
        Originally posted by -Reflexes-
        Mayweather HAS NOT been a WW for 5 years.
        November 19th,2005 against Sharmbe Mitchell, it's now 2010...granted November will mark 5 years exactly.

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          #254
          Originally posted by -Reflexes-
          To be fair the same reason Floyd moved up is the same reason Paul moved down.

          The money fights. If he moves down and is fighting at that limit its fair game.
          To be fair Mayweather did it the REAL way...moved UP....

          WE dont know how good P Will is because he only fights smaller fighters....Put him in the ring with Bute, Ward or Dawson and he will get mopped across the ring..

          dude lost to Carlos Quintana

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            #255
            Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
            November 19th,2005 against Sharmbe Mitchell, it's now 2010...granted November will mark 5 years exactly.
            So how many WW fights did he have the 2 years he was retired?

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              #256
              Originally posted by tru2boxingfan
              We are talking Natural weight. Winky could easlily fight lhw, mw, smw, but he fights more natural @ jmw. Same as Williams he fights more natural @ Junior Middleweight
              Winky doesnt have the power to move up in weight past 160, hence the reason he hasnt moved up in weight besides the Hopkins fight @170 and he looked like fudge

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                #257
                Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.

                CLOSE THREAD
                I bomb on these cats. Not because I am a fan of Floyd because
                I don't agree with everything he says/does but just because I can't
                sit and read all the bull**** posts from so many people who don't tell
                it like it is and not really keeping up with the sport but rather making
                up BS to support their reasons to not like Floyd or giving him credit.
                Fact of the matter is, Floyd tried to make the fight with Pac and Pac
                walked away because of blood tests he didn't want to take 14 days
                before the fight. NOW Floyd is fighting Shane Mosley, the #1 WW
                Champ AND a fighter that Pacquiao wanted none of even at 140
                where Shane would be drained. Floyd tried to fight the "So called"
                P4P best and now he's fighting the best at 147. How can anyone
                hate on that or him? Pac fell back and Mosley stepped up but
                Floyd initiated both, PERIOD.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by tru2boxingfan
                  Oh well Williams is good fight for both fighters, but neither of them will take the risk to move up to 154 to fight him. Floyd could barely take Oscar at 154 that isn't his natural weight. Williams fighting @ middleweight would be ****** to come down to 147 for a fight because he will drained and weak. Martinez and Bradley on the other has a better chance of happening, but what about Pacquiao likely opponents. Wouldn't you want to see if face a boxer that is just as good or as dangerous as Floyd. As a matter of fact im tired of people over looking Berto.

                  Berto would have beaten Shane. After that everyone would have been like Berto vs Floyd instead of realizing they are under the same management and saying Berto vs Pacquiao.
                  I agree with most of you've written. Mayweather should have comeback against a welterweight, namely Berto or even a guy like Collazo, but not Marquez...that was silly.

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                    #259
                    Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
                    To be fair Mayweather did it the REAL way...moved UP....

                    WE dont know how good P Will is because he only fights smaller fighters....Put him in the ring with Bute, Ward or Dawson and he will get mopped across the ring..

                    dude lost to Carlos Quintana
                    There is no REAL way. Hopkins was a 175 Pounder at the beginning of his career. He spent almost a decade or more at 160 Pounds before moving up again.

                    How is fighting smaller fighters? Boxing does not and will never have a height and reach division. The guy in my avatar is an ATG. He only fought smaller fighters?

                    Why would you put a guy who just weighed 156 pounds on the scale for a 160 Pound fight against a guy like Butte, Ward and Dawson. Guys who weigh anywhere from 180-190 Pounds? Why?

                    Would you put the 5-11 Tyson against the 5-11 Cabrello?

                    Losing to Quintana is a bad thing now? You forgot to mention he waxed him in one round and aveneged his loss. The fact he loss only proves my point. He already has a LOSS at 147 so whats the problem with him fighting there.

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
                      wait since when did Floyd duck Martinez & Bradley?

                      so now when a fighter calls another fighter out and the fighter that was called out looks another direction for greater financial comepensation its "ducking"?

                      and since you want to bring up P Will...please tell me how many fighter have MOVED DOWN in weight to challenge smaller fighters with the aspirations of being an ATG?

                      Why hasnt P Will moved up to challenge bigger fighters like Floyd, Manny, Oscar & Shane has?
                      One question...you think Mayweather would ever have the balls to do what Mosley,SRL, Duran, ODLH and countless others have done, move up and test himself against a guy like Martinez or even PWill?

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