Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Will Fight Mayweather-Mosley Winner, Says Roach

[switchsouthpaw]

Switchsouthpaw has been getting slapped around this entire thread..you know the typical "Mayweather ducked Cotto & Margarito" rhetoric..basically look @ post #151...

he has been "ducking" the post...

Yes I'm being slapped around by the uneducated ******-fabulous one himself lol.

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People just loved to discredit Baldomir but none of the top 147LB's did

One and it was ODLH, Mayweathers first fight at welterweight was against Sharmbe Mitchell (FACT). Mayweather then went on to Judah and Baldomir, compare that with Cotto and Clottey as Pac's second/third fight at Welterweight...which of those names sounds better to you?

Are Zab and Baldy better than either Cotto or Clottey?

"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change the whole night around."

"My heart is going toward Mayweather on a decision," he said. "It's going to be a tough fight for him, but I think
he's going to pull it off. I just think that Baldomir's toughness is
going to take him through to the end of the fight."
-- Cintron

"To me, it's a toss-up," said Paul Williams, the undefeated WBO No. 1 contender, who will be fighting Mario Lucero
on the undercard on Saturday, in what he hopes will be a final tune-up before challenging Antonio Margarito for that version of the title.

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're
calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter
who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change
the whole night around."

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Originally Posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
Try being bright and learn to interpret things correctly.

1) How long has Cotto been a welterweight? since 2007 (a year after Mayweather, but Mayweather was retired for 2 years so really Cotto has been fighting @ WW longer)
2)How long has Mayweather been a welterweight? since 2006
3) Prior to Mayweather, how long has Marquez been at welterweight? NEVER
4) How long has Pac been a welterweight? a little over a year

The answers provided that you give them accurately, sinks all of the theories.

Oh and this is for you...."OMG"..LMFAO" ROFL" "HANDJOBS TO ALL MAYWEATHER FANS" "YIPPEE" "YAYYYY".

1) His first fight at the welterweight limit was november 19th 2005 against Sharmbe Mitchell, not 2006..WRONG.

So guy A, forget about Mayweather let's call him guy A, who has been at 147 for five years but you ask what's the issue and difference in the weight between he and Marquez and compare it to Cotto/Pac, who in your own response you acknowledge this was his (Pac) first first at 147, so obviously he wasn't a natural 147.

Pac was coming up in weight rapidly, ok so here is the distinction, one guy has been there for 5 years...fact or false?
The other guy just got there...Pac? Fact or false?
He fought a natural welterweight who had been there for close to three years versus Mayweather fighting a guy who only be weight qualified for the 147 limit but it wasn't his natural fighting weight....do you not see the distinction in how long someone has been at what weight and how that impacts how you compare the two?

Mayweather HAS NOT been a WW for 5 years.

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Yes I'm being slapped around by the uneducated ******-fabulous one himself lol.

****** fabulous...

[tru2boxingfan]

wait since when did Floyd duck Martinez & Bradley?

so now when a fighter calls another fighter out and the fighter that was called out looks another direction for greater financial comepensation its "ducking"?

and since you want to bring up P Will...please tell me how many fighter have MOVED DOWN in weight to challenge smaller fighters with the aspirations of being an ATG?

Why hasnt P Will moved up to challenge bigger fighters like Floyd, Manny, Oscar & Shane has?

Easy answer to that. P.williams is being ducked. He went to challenge Palvik who as of right now holds the middleweight crown. P. Williams is junior middleweight @ most, but do you think anyone will give him a shot. Nope.
Palvik ducked him and that is the true def. of ducking a fighter when you claim you have hand problems they than offer to push the fight back you reject it. Than decide to fight a week after the offer date they made for you to heal.

P. Williams must grab a world title in a weight class to solidify him as an opponent. Belts do help and weigh in as a factor come fight time. If he can manage to capture the belt that they will vacant after Vernon Forrest death and/or Spinks title he may still have a shot to become a draw and get a mega fight.

[Cash Cow]

"Mayweather should be the favorite," Margarito said, "but Baldomir's a dangerous fighter. We'll see."

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change the whole night around."

"My heart is going toward Mayweather on a decision," he said. "It's going to be a tough fight for him, but I think
he's going to pull it off. I just think that Baldomir's toughness is
going to take him through to the end of the fight."
-- Cintron

"To me, it's a toss-up," said Paul Williams, the undefeated WBO No. 1 contender, who will be fighting Mario Lucero
on the undercard on Saturday, in what he hopes will be a final tune-up before challenging Antonio Margarito for that version of the title.

"It's a good fight," Williams said. "They're
calling it 'Pretty Risky.' To me, it's a toss-up. It don't matter
who you're in the ring with, it only takes one punch to change
the whole night around."

CLOSE THREAD

[switchsouthpaw]

Who was the last person to hold all titles at ww?
Judah
Who was the person who beat him for 2 of those titles?
Baldomir

They were the best, just cause their not now doesn't have anything to do with the fact Mayweather moved up and fought the champions at the time.

Lol You want me to list a succession of fighters who were average, who at one time or another held titles either because of controversy,politics or because they claimed a vacant title?

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Lol You want me to list a succession of fighters who were average, who at one time or another held titles either because of controversy,politics or because they claimed a vacant title?

Switch catch me up here. Your beef is that Floyd shouldnt have fought for the Lineal Title?

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Easy answer to that. P.williams is being ducked. He went to challenge Palvik who as of right now holds the middleweight crown. P. Williams is junior middleweight @ most, but do you think anyone will give him a shot. Nope.
Palvik ducked him and that is the true def. of ducking a fighter when you claim you have hand problems they than offer to push the fight back you reject it. Than decide to fight a week after the offer date they made for you to heal.

P. Williams must grab a world title in a weight class to solidify him as an opponent. Belts do help and weigh in as a factor come fight time. If he can manage to capture the belt that they will vacant after Vernon Forrest death and/or Spinks title he may still have a shot to become a draw and get a mega fight.

yes but he started out @ MW when he turned pro.....

I have never heard of a guy trying to be great by moving down in divisions to chase smaller fighters...

Manny moved up 7

Floyd moved up 5.

Williams moved down 2

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yes but he started out @ MW when he turned pro.....

I have never heard of a guy trying to be great by moving down in divisions to chase smaller fighters...

Manny moved up 7

Floyd moved up 5.

Williams moved down 2

To be fair the same reason Floyd moved up is the same reason Paul moved down.

The money fights. If he moves down and is fighting at that limit its fair game.