Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Blows Away Mayweather in BWAA's Decade Votes

[madsweeney]

But he had blood taken out before the Hatton bout?

Your right! It was taken 24 days before the fight.

[-Antonio-]

Manny Pacquiao was the best fighter of this generation based on the criteria anyway so lets move along now.

Notice the only people bitching are Floyd fans. Ask all the neutral people on here who had the better decade.

Floyd wins a fight, Manny still had the better decade.

[GRUSTLER]

its fun to see these *****S crying from jealousy! lol

Are you following me around wilth old posts? Ha ha! Means I'm
really crushing you guys. I don't even think at 147 or before
Marg that Cotto would have beat Manny when I come to think
about it because I always saw the flaws in Cotto but also saw
and see them in Manny and that's why I was never confident
with Manny either. I never thought Cotto could beat Floyd.
Cotto style was tailor made for Floyd. All punch and no brains.
Take Cotto punch away and he was clueless and discouraged
(Margarito/Pacquiao).

[GRUSTLER]

Except Floyd had no other options, his hands were forced. Who else besides Mosley would Floyd have chosen as far as credibility is concerned...Matthew Hatton? Floyd was forced to take Mosley or the public would have cried foul.

NO. Floyd was forced to take Mosley because Pacquiao backed
out of the fight and Mosley was the next biggest $ fight.

[Sugar Q]

Except Floyd had no other options, his hands were forced. Who else besides Mosley would Floyd have chosen as far as credibility is concerned...Matthew Hatton? Floyd was forced to take Mosley or the public would have cried foul.

I'm gonna assume everyone here can add and subtract? Here's the facts, Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing! Floyd will make 25-30 million for the Mosley fight while Mosley will make around 15. Manny is making 10 mill for Clottey while CLottey is only making 1 million. Floyd made 15 for Marquez. Manny will never have a successful 24/7 without Floyd but every 24/7 Floyd does will be very successful. Floyd could've chosen many opponents but always planned to fight Shane anyway why is that hard to understand. Floyd/Cotto would've done a minimum of 1.8 PPV buys.

[GRUSTLER]

Your right! It was taken 24 days before the fight.

Manny fans and supporters continue to make excuses on why Manny
backed out of the Floyd fight like it wasn't his fault. I like watching
Manny fight too but it is what it is. He walked away from the table
without putting his signature on the contract that means the fight
not happening was on him.

[dom329]

Why would it be BS just because it didn't go with your opinions? Writers, journalists, and people within and about boxing agreed unanimously.

First of all, Pacquiao accomplished something unprecented:

• 7 weight division championships

and in the most dramatic ways in beating great and legendary fighters. The last 2 years alone is a testament to that.

How can Mayweather's career top that when he left too prematurely (retired)? Do you expect that to top one of the most dynamic ascension of any boxer in history since Henry Armstrong?

Mayweather is a great boxer, one of the best. I am sure he would be put into his own place and have already carved his own niche in boxing history. But to say that Pacquiao didn't earn the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE and FIGHTER OF THE YEAR is just too filled with hate and jealousy.

I don't think anyone said Manny doesn't deserve fighter of the year. The only argument is if he deserves fighter of the decade or not. Manny fought his best fights in the second half of the decade. Mayweather fought a great first half. So I think its a good debate either way. My opinion is Mayweather had the better dacade overall but thats just me.

[Sugar Q]

Are you following me around wilth old posts? Ha ha! Means I'm
really crushing you guys. I don't even think at 147 or before
Marg that Cotto would have beat Manny when I come to think
about it because I always saw the flaws in Cotto but also saw
and see them in Manny and that's why I was never confident
with Manny either. I never thought Cotto could beat Floyd.
Cotto style was tailor made for Floyd. All punch and no brains.
Take Cotto punch away and he was clueless and discouraged
(Margarito/Pacquiao).

Cotto always relied on overpowering an opponent. It was a matter of time before someone took advantage of that and Floyd would have. He needed a trainer that would settle him down a long time ago but never got it.

[Sugar Q]

1) 14 days ALSO isn't sufficient time to catch someone cheating. According to Victor Conte of BALCO who succeeded in roiding Olympic athletes for YEARS without getting caught, it takes JUST ONE DAY for their product the "clear" or "cream" to allow the drugs to taper off one's system and thus avoid detection even from the olympic-style blood tests that floyd jr. kept insisting on.
2) Manny offered to undergo RANDOM URINE TESTING UP TO THE FIGHT NIGHT. It is now a FACT the urine tests can detect HGH, EPO and other steroids, so urine tests are much better in that they can even do DAILY tests if they wanted to.
3) Manny isn't afraid of needles nor is he hiding something. He simply doesn't wan blood, ANY AMOUNT to be taken from him 24 days before the fight.

But if you would've read on you would fine that 14 days before would break the cycle and not allow the PED to be fully affective. You need 24-30 days to cycle the drug thats why Team Money wanted to break the cycle. Manny knows this also that's the real reason he wanted 30 days has nothing to do with needles or blood it's the juice.

[dom329]

Seems to me that the voters went half a decade instead of the whole decade.


From 2000 to 2003 Mayweather blows Pacquiao away, from 06-09 Pacquiao won it with his wins over Morales, Barrera and Marquez. His wins over DLH and Cotto don't mean **** to me. Hatton was a good win.


Notable wins only:
2000: None
2001: Corrales(Top 5 P4P), Hernandez, Chavez(1 loss)
2002: Castillo(#1 LW) 2x
2003-2004 Mediocre fighters but still tough: Sosa, Corley,
Gatti
2005: None
2006: Zab Judah(Top 10 WW) and Carlos Baldomir(#1 WW)
2007: De La Hoya(154 WBC champ), Ricky Hatton(43-0)
2009: Marquez

vs

2000: No notable wins
2001: Ledwaba and Sanchez
2002: No notable wins
2003: Lucero and Barrera
2004: Marquez
2005: No notable wins
2006: Morales 2x and Larios
2007: Solis and Barrera
2008: Marquez and De La Hoya
2009: Hatton and Cotto


I really don't get it. I can't see how these voters voted for Pacquiao solely on what he did on the second half of the decade.

The first half clearly belongs to Floyd, the second half belongs to Pacquiao and that's because Mayweather retired for 2 years. It's a tie, it couldn't be a landslide for either fighter.

I agree that it shouldn't be a landslide for either guy.