Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Blows Away Mayweather in BWAA's Decade Votes

[switchsouthpaw]

Not at all these are facts. When someone says Floyd had to fight Shane they don't know the facts. Shane is the best fight for Floyd outside of Manny but Floyd can still make a killing fighting others like Spinks, Sturm, Collazo, Bradley, Cintron, Quintana, Khan, etc.

You're the only one arguing about PPV numbers and money. We're discussing fights that would generate public interest beyond dollars. You don't have to agree with me.This was Dougie Fischer's (surely he's credible right?) response to a Mayweather fanboy who had claimed May to be the greatest thing since sliced bread;

You have a warped take on recent history, Tommy. There was no huge public demand for Mayweather to fight Baldomir or Hatton. Prior to the De La Hoya fight, Floyd was only known by hardcore fans and the diehards wanted him to fight badass welterweights like Margarito and Cotto. No one gave a rat’s ass about Baldomir (who was just a Zab Judah creation) and PPV numbers to this fight support my claim. If you can find more than five credible boxing writers who thought Baldomir had a chance in hell to beat Mayweather I’ll mail you a $100 bill.

Post-De La Hoya nobody cared to see Mayweather defend the welterweight title against Hatton, a guy who went life and death with Luis Collazo at welterweight and who looked ordinary in out-pointing Juan Urango at 140 pounds. I’ll say this about the Hatton fight, at least the Brit’s popularity and HBO’s 24/7 series made for an event that helped to further Mayweather’s crossover celebrity that began with the De La Hoya fight.

However, Mayweather “retired” rather than face the media’s and the public’s demand to fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito. And he fought the 36-year-old lightweight champ when he decided to come back.

It’s funny. Before he fought De La Hoya, Mayweather claimed that Goldie only fought smaller and older fighters on his way up. Now look what Mayweather does while on top of the proverbial mountain. At least the next “old man” Mayweather faces is a real welterweight.

You might be right about Mayweather’s chances vs. Mosley, Pacquiao and P-Will, but we’ll never know until he fights them. One fight at a time, kid. Let’s see what happens on May 1.

Your thoughts on Mayweather vs. the Greats are absolutely ridiculous and unfounded. Thank you for being honest about not knowing much about Burley. Now be honest about Armstrong and Gavilan and admit that you’ve never seen a complete fight of either all-time great. And if you have, you don’t know what you’re looking at.

FYI--THESE ARE FACTS.

[dom329]

If you put the debate in perspective and in the mind of a journalist, you have to ask yourself a few questions. You can't directly compare resumes of said fighters, where one fighter has been fighting at the welterweight limit for 5 years and other has been only there a year, while steadily moving up in a span of 2 and dominating fighters (context), there has to be some context involved when examining these accomplishments.

It would be awesome if we could see what went into their voting. It would be great to see their perspective on it. Its not about the last five years. It the whole decade that is examined. In my opinion floyd had the better decade as a whole but he did retire which makes it close for both fighters. They are both great.

[GRUSTLER]

Has Floyd signed the contract then? I havent heard anything yet.

How much points do you want to bet that Floyd signs the contract?
I asked someone else this question, he said that I was right and he
had to think about if he wanted to bet points or not. Still haven't
heard from him When has Floyd Mayweather Jr ever back away from
a big pay per view fight?

[Roger Mellie]

I cant believe you f.uckwits are still ****ing on about this.

[Sugar Q]

I think arum tricked everyone. He said they should sit on it for a while and let the fight get bigger. Arum probably knew already that they didnt have to make that fight because they can move on to much more lucrative fights. Everyone does go for the money. I don't think that really means either him or floyd were scared. I still think foyd had the better decade too but thats my opinion. It wouldn't be so close if floyd didn't retire but he did. Definitely good for nice debates.

I really dont see how much bigger the fight can get the fight is huge. I just dont think they ever wanted to fight Floyd.

[switchsouthpaw]

It would be awesome if we could see what went into their voting. It would be great to see their perspective on it. Its not about the last five years. It the whole decade that is examined. In my opinion floyd had the better decade as a whole but he did retire which makes it close for both fighters. They are both great.

I think his first retirement was in 2005 and it started with Sharmbe Mitchell.

[dom329]

I really dont see how much bigger the fight can get the fight is huge. I just dont think they ever wanted to fight Floyd.

Sorry I meant in regards to marquez.

[Gutz]

It is about black and white im not racist but thats how it is in the real world. Most white people don't like Floyd but praise Pacquiao true story. So if you got 30 writers 10 are black and 20 are white who do you think gonna win?

I mean you talk about Ali but do you know how bad Ali was hated on before people said he was the greatest? Do you know they used to say Ali couldn't even compete with the ATG heavyweights? I mean they did Ali wrong he gets his respect now but don't think it was always like that.

STFU..

Look what color the president is..

And everyone loves Ali.. even White people..

[Roger Mellie]

How much points do you want to bet that Floyd signs the contract?
I asked someone else this question, he said that I was right and he
had to think about if he wanted to bet points or not. Still haven't
heard from him When has Floyd Mayweather Jr ever back away from
a big pay per view fight?

Dont take it so personal. I have been busy all day,and havent heard. I thought he was signing today. WTF happened to you? You had a rep for being one of the most even handed and knowledgable posters on here,but you have turned into a tub thumping baby in the last month or so. You sound like you are campaigning for office or something. Sure,I admit that I love winding up *****s when I am bored( happens a lot when I look on nsb and see nothing but Floydy threads,roidy this,ped that,gay the other), but you are seriously hardcore ***** material.

Give us the old Grustler back. The board could use him.

[Sugar Q]

You're the only one arguing about PPV numbers and money. We're discussing fights that would generate public interest beyond dollars. You don't have to agree with me.This was Dougie Fischer's (surely he's credible right?) response to a Mayweather fanboy who had claimed May to be the greatest thing since sliced bread;

You have a warped take on recent history, Tommy. There was no huge public demand for Mayweather to fight Baldomir or Hatton. Prior to the De La Hoya fight, Floyd was only known by hardcore fans and the diehards wanted him to fight badass welterweights like Margarito and Cotto. No one gave a rat’s ass about Baldomir (who was just a Zab Judah creation) and PPV numbers to this fight support my claim. If you can find more than five credible boxing writers who thought Baldomir had a chance in hell to beat Mayweather I’ll mail you a $100 bill.

Post-De La Hoya nobody cared to see Mayweather defend the welterweight title against Hatton, a guy who went life and death with Luis Collazo at welterweight and who looked ordinary in out-pointing Juan Urango at 140 pounds. I’ll say this about the Hatton fight, at least the Brit’s popularity and HBO’s 24/7 series made for an event that helped to further Mayweather’s crossover celebrity that began with the De La Hoya fight.

However, Mayweather “retired” rather than face the media’s and the public’s demand to fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito. And he fought the 36-year-old lightweight champ when he decided to come back.

It’s funny. Before he fought De La Hoya, Mayweather claimed that Goldie only fought smaller and older fighters on his way up. Now look what Mayweather does while on top of the proverbial mountain. At least the next “old man” Mayweather faces is a real welterweight.

You might be right about Mayweather’s chances vs. Mosley, Pacquiao and P-Will, but we’ll never know until he fights them. One fight at a time, kid. Let’s see what happens on May 1.

Your thoughts on Mayweather vs. the Greats are absolutely ridiculous and unfounded. Thank you for being honest about not knowing much about Burley. Now be honest about Armstrong and Gavilan and admit that you’ve never seen a complete fight of either all-time great. And if you have, you don’t know what you’re looking at.

FYI--THESE ARE FACTS.

Don't know what that was all about but Floyd got on everybodies radar after Corrales then Gatti. Oscar was the reward. I never wrote none of that my dude you got the wrong guy. But since I have the floor, I don't think Floyd or Manny would've gotten past Aaron Pryor at 140 let lone near the ring against Ray Leonard or Hearns and Manny wouldn't have gotten past Whittaker, Meldrick Taylor, Chavez, Roger "the Black Mamba" Mayweather, Camacho, Sanchez, Gomez, Rosario, Arguello, etc those are my quotes you can record.