Abraham's new sparring partner: SVEN OTTKE!

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  • jkaisen41
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    #31
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    As you say: Abraham always has the equalizer so Direll can never be completely comfortable. Is just that AA looks quite slow. But ofcourse noone has found the formula to beat him yet.
    Against Dirrell he will look slow as **** if he throws his winging punches... it will make him look ******... if he punches straight he has ok handspeed... enogh to land on everyone expect Hopkins probably at the higher weights IMO... I mean even though JT wasn't untouched anymore... it wasn't a very big difference in handspeed I felt between those two IMO... and JT's handspeed ain't that bad or do you mean his footspeed?

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      #32
      Originally posted by cleaner147
      oh my goodness, this big-mouth is lookin for attention, how sad is this...
      thej just want te refresh his 'perferkt' career so people dont forget about him.
      he aint a serious sparringspartner.
      Just to show that Sauerlandevent always got the best supermiddleweight fighters. from Sven tooo Abe.

      (hes also smaller than 5'10, hes 5'9 at best)

      Abraham is going to KO Dirrell. It could be like the Khoren fight.
      To tell you the truth I was afraid of the same *looooooooooooooooool*

      Ottke comes back and fights Henry Maske or something... *loooooooooooool* this would be a snoozer... Maske must be the only I guy in German boxing that I dislike more then Ottke *loooooooooooooool*

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      • Tom_Tocca
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        #33
        Originally posted by jkaisen41
        To tell you the truth I was afraid of the same *looooooooooooooooool*

        Ottke comes back and fights Henry Maske or something... *loooooooooooool* this would be a snoozer... Maske must be the only I guy in German boxing that I dislike more then Ottke *loooooooooooooool*
        Though, he's a good TV analyst - maybe the best we have on German TV...

        But the fact remains, that Ottke at his best was far more entertaining than Maske was...only entetaining fights Maske had were the bouts vs. "Rocky" and his title winning afford against C. "Prince" Williams...

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          #34
          Originally posted by jkaisen41
          To tell you the truth I was afraid of the same *looooooooooooooooool*

          Ottke comes back and fights Henry Maske or something... *loooooooooooool* this would be a snoozer... Maske must be the only I guy in German boxing that I dislike more then Ottke *loooooooooooooool*
          I always wondered howcome Maske and Ottke could attract those massive crowds and maintain a gigantic popularity when they where so painfully boring.

          Can their popularity be contributed to the joy of the re-union or maybe the german fightfans just didn't know what it was like to watch an entertaining fight?

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            #35
            Originally posted by jkaisen41
            To tell you the truth I was afraid of the same *looooooooooooooooool*

            Ottke comes back and fights Henry Maske or something... *loooooooooooool* this would be a snoozer... Maske must be the only I guy in German boxing that I dislike more then Ottke *loooooooooooooool*
            Maske is a nice guy.
            after his loss to Virgil Hill, AFTER 10 YEARS without fightin he came back to beat him in the rematch. this was amazing and he did a pretty good job.

            henry maske>>> sven ottke
            Last edited by cleaner147; 02-01-2010, 04:25 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jkaisen41
              He felt against Henshaw... the Stevens fight was really an embarrassment... if you ever talk about ''running'' this is the match...

              He was knocked down against an lesser opponent though... but that was a little ago

              imagine if aa hits him with something like that. dirrell would be out for a week.

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                #37
                Originally posted by jkaisen41
                Against Dirrell he will look slow as **** if he throws his winging punches... it will make him look ******... if he punches straight he has ok handspeed... enogh to land on everyone expect Hopkins probably at the higher weights IMO... I mean even though JT wasn't untouched anymore... it wasn't a very big difference in handspeed I felt between those two IMO... and JT's handspeed ain't that bad or do you mean his footspeed?
                Footspeed. AA's handspeed is fine and he can really put punches together.

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                  #38
                  Abraham's biggest struggle will be his stamina. He can win but he likes to take his breaks in there. He cannot do that against Dirrell. He will have to stay on top of him and tire Dirrell out. He needs to rough him up a bit.

                  It can be done but I favor Dirrell in this one. The guy is fast as hell and hard to hit. Dirrell's biggest chance is to just hit and run all night. Don't get trapped on the ropes. He will also have to get some good shots in on Abraham to make Abraham reluctant.

                  Abraham will make his move for the KO later in the fight. Early he should just make Dirrell work hard to try to slow him down later.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    Abraham's biggest struggle will be his stamina. He can win but he likes to take his breaks in there. He cannot do that against Dirrell. He will have to stay on top of him and tire Dirrell out. He needs to rough him up a bit.

                    It can be done but I favor Dirrell in this one. The guy is fast as hell and hard to hit. Dirrell's biggest chance is to just hit and run all night. Don't get trapped on the ropes. He will also have to get some good shots in on Abraham to make Abraham reluctant.

                    Abraham will make his move for the KO later in the fight. Early he should just make Dirrell work hard to try to slow him down later.
                    That's pretty much how I see it as well. AA must go to the body early with those patented vicious hooks. He needs to take away Direll's feet so he can land the haymaker in the championship rounds.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      I always wondered howcome Maske and Ottke could attract those massive crowds and maintain a gigantic popularity when they where so painfully boring.

                      Can their popularity be contributed to the joy of the re-union or maybe the german fightfans just didn't know what it was like to watch an entertaining fight?
                      I don't know... somehow boxing boomed in Germany at that time... with Schulz at the heavies... Ottke, Maske, Rocchigiani... I don't if you ever watched wrestling... but if you did you will remember guys like Hulk Hogan... Andre the Giant, Ultimate Warrior... they ain't good wrestlers at all but the wrestling boom was there so ppl watched it and liked it... I guess to a degree it's the same here... Maske and Ottke was never really spectacular but they ''won'' their fights... Maske somehow was appealing to many because he was an class act ''Gentleman'' you know I guess... I don't know if it was the east germany love *loooooooooooooooooooool*

                      Really Tom... oh God I hate Maske so bad... I don't know why... I could never stand him... and as an analyst I can't stand him... I can't stand his voice his whole agenda... I simply dislike him... I turn the tv down everytime I see him... even at the Abraham fight as he was introduced I booed him... but many else did too... someone behind me even screamed for Rocchigiani *looooooooooooooooooooo* Berlin fans are tough... a little like Philly fans *loooooooooooooooooool*

                      He ain't the guy with the most stamina but I would take his last fights at MW as an fact for that... he really was badly drained... even in fight week he still had so many pounds to shred that he was absolutely dead... but he def. has to make an impact early... to the body... to the head... he has too... but I think they know that... his trainer is an clever old man... I'm confident that Wegner has him ready

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