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    #31
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
    1. Williams Fights per Division

    WW - 7
    SWW/JMW - 16
    MW -15

    2. Thats sounds about fair!!
    I edited my post to say legitimate fights. Williams started his career at middle but moved down to WW. His biggest win is over Marg, and his biggest win at middleweight is......someone who is not rated in the middleweight rankings.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Easy-E
      I think their rankings are better than mostly any other sanctioning body, but their rankings blatently contradict themselves on a regular basis.
      Williams has had 16 fights at Middleweight. Hes 16-0 and there.

      GBP heavily influences the rankings.

      The Top 5 P4P are GBP Affiliated fighters:

      1. Pac
      2. Mayweather
      3. Mosley
      4. Hopkins
      5. JMM

      All affiliated with GBP.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Easy-E
        I edited my post to say legitimate fights. Williams started his career at middle but moved down to WW. His biggest win is over Marg, and his biggest win at middleweight is......someone who is not rated in the middleweight rankings.
        Ho the other fights are not legit? Dude is 15-0 at MW
        Winky was ranked top 10 till like a month ago I think!

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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Bro Jack Dempsey was the first Ring Champ back 1924... And, then other fighters like Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Benny Leonard, Pancho Villa etc etc... won the belts too... And, they ranking policy... But, they did stop like 1992 or something like that cuz the Magazine was going bankrupt... However, after all the disgraceful sanctioning rankings... The Ring decided to bring the championship policy back... But, really The Ring is older than any of the major 4 belts...
          All true but the Ring title is inconsistent in the time frames it has represented, some of the best fighters ever have not held the ring title.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            Ho the other fights are not legit? Dude is 15-0 at MW
            Winky was ranked top 10 till like a month ago I think!
            look at his record though Martinez, Wright and Kolle are his only recent fights at 160, and before Mathysse he was not a relevant fighter.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Easy-E
              look at his record though Martinez, Wright and Kolle are his only recent fights at 160, and before Mathysse he was not a relevant fighter.
              Name your top 5 Middleweights.

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                #37
                Originally posted by -Reflexes-
                Williams has had 16 fights at Middleweight. Hes 16-0 and there.

                GBP heavily influences the rankings.

                The Top 5 P4P are GBP Affiliated fighters:

                1. Pac
                2. Mayweather
                3. Mosley
                4. Hopkins
                5. JMM

                All affiliated with GBP.
                Right buy Williams fights at Middle are not enough to warrent him a top three ranking based on the standards that the Ring set for supermiddleweight.

                What I am saying is that although I agree Williams is a top three middle, I also believe that Abraham is a top three SMW. Both guys essentially made their careers (in regards to facing prominent fighters in leigitmate fights) at other weight divisions, yet moved up and defeated legitimate fighters at their current weight.
                However, the Ring does not react to this in a fair fashion, and uses bias as opposed to logic when determining their rankings.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Easy-E
                  Right buy Williams fights at Middle are not enough to warrent him a top three ranking based on the standards that the Ring set for supermiddleweight.

                  What I am saying is that although I agree Williams is a top three middle, I also believe that Abraham is a top three SMW. Both guys essentially made their careers (in regards to facing prominent fighters in leigitmate fights) at other weight divisions, yet moved up and defeated legitimate fighters at their current weight.
                  However, the Ring does not react to this in a fair fashion, and uses bias as opposed to logic when determining their rankings.
                  I think AA will get his due if he beats Dirrell in convincing fashion.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by -Reflexes-
                    Name your top 5 Middleweights.
                    you are not understanding what I am saying. I believe Williams is a top five middle, but not based on what he has accomplished at middle. His victories at WW and SWW are important factors in how he is rated at middle, in accordance with his victories at middle.
                    However, the same creedednce should be given to Abraham, who was a top rated middle, moved up and won against a rated SMW, yet does not recieve the respect in the ratings for it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Easy-E
                      you are not understanding what I am saying. I believe Williams is a top five middle, but not based on what he has accomplished at middle. His victories at WW and SWW are important factors in how he is rated at middle, in accordance with his victories at middle.
                      However, the same creedednce should be given to Abraham, who was a top rated middle, moved up and won against a rated SMW, yet does not recieve the respect in the ratings for it.
                      I get what your saying. I think AA will get his spot if he beats Dirrell convincingly.

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