The Ring Super Middleweight rankings just made me LOL

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He fought Calzaghe, Bute to UD L's. he Draw with Beyer, beat Soliman, Manfredo and Cdrigton. His resume at SMW is vastly more extense than beating Jermain Taylor!


Again, How many wins against top SMWs does Dirrel have?

So he lost to two rated fighters and then beat unranked Super Middles?
Abraham is a top fighter in that division, it is not all about who you have faced in that divison when you are moving up.
For example Paul Williams is rated two at middleweight without ever beating a middleweight. Abraham has conducted an excellent middlweight career and has since moved up to super and done nothing but convincingly defeat his opponents. When you have established youself in one divison, and move up and beat a top fighter in the next division, you should be rated higher than some guy who has won a few solid fights but lost to legitimate and top contenders.
Are you honestly saying that Bika is a better SMW that Abraham?
That Dirrell should not be rated top 10???

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Actually Ring belt and their ranking system has been around way before any of the major 4 belts...

Wrong. The ring championship policy came into effect in 2002.

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But it seems the Ring is strictly following the concept (except the P4P) while others are not..

if you want to be no.1 beat the no.1.
if you want to be no.9 beat the no.9 (unless your higher)..

I feel they have the best ranking, ever..

Well that is not true.
Manny is the number 1 welter and did not beat the number 1 previous welter in Mosley.
Bute is number 1 SMW and did not beat the number 1 SMW.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

So he lost to two rated fighters and then beat unranked Super Middles?
Abraham is a top fighter in that division, it is not all about who you have faced in that divison when you are moving up.
For example Paul Williams is rated two at middleweight without ever beating a middleweight. Abraham has conducted an excellent middlweight career and has since moved up to super and done nothing but convincingly defeat his opponents. When you have established youself in one divison, and move up and beat a top fighter in the next division, you should be rated higher than some guy who has won a few solid fights but lost to legitimate and top contenders.
Are you honestly saying that Bika is a better SMW that Abraham?
That Dirrell should not be rated top 10???

1.Most of William fights has been at SWW or MW. He beat Winky Wright at MW!!!!

2.I never Said that, divisional rankings are not about who is the better fighter, is about who you beat, when and how.

3. I he could be rank and he cant be ranked. And if someone doesnt have him ranked i not a travesty, because, he has not beat a top guy yet.

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1.Most of William fights has been at SWW or MW. He beat Winky Wright at MW!!!!

2.I never Said that, divisional rankings are not about who is the better fighter, is about who you beat, when and how.

3. I he could be rank and he cant be ranked. And if someone doesnt have him ranked i not a travesty, because, he has not beat a top guy yet.

First off, most of Williams legitimate fights have been at welterweight.
His two fights at middle were against unranked Martinez (he was ranked at 154) and Winky Wright.

Your concept about divisional rankings is fine, but only if the rating body holds true to that throughout their rankings.
For example, they have Manny the number 1 welterweight, who has defeated Cotto and DLH, both who were ranked behind Mosley, who was the number 1 ranked before Manny beat Cotto.

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Well that is not true.
Manny is the number 1 welter and did not beat the number 1 previous welter in Mosley.
Bute is number 1 SMW and did not beat the number 1 SMW.

okay, my bad.. I thought that's how it works..
they should have stayed w/ their concept..

Yup, Abraham should be rank higher, at least in top-3.

but still i feel they have the best ranking.

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First off, mosy of Williams fights have been at welterweight.
His two fights at middle were against unranked Martinez (he was ranked at 154) and Winky Wright.

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Paul Williams is 16-0 at Middleweight.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

First off, mosy of Williams fights have been at welterweight.
His two fights at middle were against unranked Martinez (he was ranked at 154) and Winky Wright.

Your concept about divisional rankings is fine, but only if the rating body holds true to that throughout their rankings.
For example, they have Manny the number 1 welterweight, who has defeated Cotto and DLH, both who were ranked behind Mosley, who was the number 1 ranked before Manny beat Cotto.

1. Williams Fights per Division

WW - 7
SWW/JMW - 16
MW -15

2. Thats sounds about fair!!

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Wrong. The ring championship policy came into effect in 2002.

Bro Jack Dempsey was the first Ring Champ back 1924... And, then other fighters like Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Benny Leonard, Pancho Villa etc etc... won the belts too... And, they ranking policy... But, they did stop like 1992 or something like that cuz the Magazine was going bankrupt... However, after all the disgraceful sanctioning rankings... The Ring decided to bring the championship policy back... But, really The Ring is older than any of the major 4 belts...

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okay, my bad.. I thought that's how it works..
they should have stayed w/ their concept..

Yup, Abraham should be rank higher, at least in top-3.

but still i feel they have the best ranking.

I think their rankings are better than mostly any other sanctioning body, but their rankings blatently contradict themselves on a regular basis.