Robert Helenius TKO8 Lamon Brewster...

[Guest]

Asikainen is half-Moroccan, yes, but at his best he was quite a celebrity here compared to other boxers. Most people in Finland have atleast heard of Asikainen while only the ones who follow boxing know who Helenius is.

The thing is that Asikainen always represented Finland, while Helenius confusingly seems to fight out of Germany while representing Sweden.

Still, I think the Helenius-Brewster fight should have received a bit more coverage here, it's a fairly notable fight even if Brewster is old, one-eyed and washed up at this point in his career. Most news sites seem to have reported the outcome of Helenius-Brewster now, but there was little talk before the fight happened.

I don't care whether Helenius is Finnish or not though, he seems to be a decent heavyweight prospect who is stepping up fast and has good management. I'm looking forward to seeing him fight again.

Helenius is entertaining but I predict him getting savagely beaten when he steps up.
He's just too slow.

[TheGreatA]

Helenius is entertaining but I predict him getting savagely beaten when he steps up.
He's just too slow.

If you're talking about world championship level, probably, but I think he will have a decent amount of success. Finland hasn't ever had a world champ and only one boxer so far has even managed to compete for one so the expectations aren't all that high. If he makes it to the EBU belt and defends it a couple of times, that'd already be considered very good.

[BattlingNelson]

Just for you and others Nelson who were interested in the Random Testing thing... before the fight Sauerland was interviewed and he said that they had in fact signed this deal almost a year before with the NADA and that every athlete of Sauerland and everyone they are facing has it in the contracts that they are availabe for random testing...

He said it costs him around 6 figures...

But the tests were the reason why the supposed opponent got caught...

He said that the risk of loosing money is there... if a fighter gets tested positive short before a bout but he is willing to take the money risk for making sure it is a clean sport.

Good info.

I doubt they tested Andre Ward though. I hope they do before a showdown with AA or before an eventual rematch with Kessler.

On topic I just finished watching Helenius. Damn Brewster took a beating. He definetely should retire, because he was nothing but a heavybag in the end.

[BattlingNelson]

If you're talking about world championship level, probably, but I think he will have a decent amount of success. Finland hasn't ever had a world champ and only one boxer so far has even managed to compete for one so the expectations aren't all that high. If he makes it to the EBU belt and defends it a couple of times, that'd already be considered very good.

Finland has never had that boxing tradition as Denmark and to some extent Sweden.

Still I remember Tarmo Uusivirta. He was decent as a pro. I best remember him for suffering a spectacular KO as an AM fighter though

[TheGreatA]

Finland has never had that boxing tradition as Denmark and to some extent Sweden.

Still I remember Tarmo Uusivirta. He was decent as a pro. I best remember him for suffering a spectacular KO as an AM fighter though

I saw quite a few of his professional bouts. He never was happy with the way his boxing career turned out.

Gunnar Bärlund was the top 3 ranked challenger for Joe Louis's heavyweight title though. Made the Ring Magazine cover too.

[BattlingNelson]

I saw quite a few of his professional bouts. He never was happy with the way his boxing career turned out.

Gunnar Bärlund was the top 3 ranked challenger for Joe Louis's heavyweight title though. Made the Ring Magazine cover too.

Yeah I remember you having that cover as your avatar a couple of months ago.

Wasn't Bärlund swedish by the way?

[Tom_Tocca]

IMO Helenius looked pretty solid and should be EBU champion within a year given his talent and being coached by Ulli Wegner/promoted by SE...