Bernard Hopkins vs. James Toney

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B-Hop would kill Toney in 03'

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Nobody in boxing has a better chin that Toney. But Nard is advantage of Toney is his tallness, and he moves better on his feet, and his jab.

There is no proof of him having a better chin than Hopkins.

that is pure speculation. Nard is a better fighter all around IMO. Toney would not hold a candle to the better fighter.



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There is no proof of him having a better chin than Hopkins.

that is pure speculation.

Name one occasion when you have seen Toney hurt and keep in mind Toney has fought the big guys at cruiserweight and heavyweight while Hopkins has not. Jim Lamply said that Toney in over 70 professional fights has never been seriously hurt in his entire professional career. And Jim Lampley is by no means a Toney nuthugger.

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Name one occasion when you have seen Toney hurt and keep in mind Toney has fought the big guys at cruiserweight and heavyweight while Hopkins has not.

oh please. Comparing the level of competition between the two is ridiculous. Hopkins has fought way better opposition....and I dont have time to list everyone. It has been done a thousand times.

who are the "big guys" at cruiser? LOL.

TONEY IS A ****ING ELUSIVE FIGHTER. Hopkins is a ****ing Brawler man.....dont even compare the two. Only as of late...he has been running away...and Toney has been trading. So dont pull that.



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[The Troll]

How can you say Toney's level of oppositon is worse than Hopkins when he has gained belts at Middle weight super middleweight Cruserweight and heavyweight, he was beaten champions in 4 different weight classes. Toney has faced practically all championship quality oppositon since defeating nunn for the middleweight title and he has never been seriously hurt, that is an amazing accomplishment. All his losses are sleeper UD's.

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How can you say Toney's level of oppositon is worse than Hopkins when he has gained belts at Middle weight super middleweight Cruserweight and heavyweight, he was beaten champions in 4 different weight classes.

Because he is not the 21 time defending middleweight champion of the world...who runs through #1 challengers like nothing.

Toney fights bums man. Im sorry. LOL.



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Because he is not the 21 time defending middleweight champion of the world...who runs through #1 challengers like nothing.

Toney fights bums man. Im sorry. LOL.

Toney was defeating actuall title holders while Hopkins was fighting contenders. I will take fighting champions obviously over fighting contenders.

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Toney was defeating actuall title holders while Hopkins was fighting contenders. I will take fighting champions obviously over fighting contenders.

McKay.......comparing the level of opposition between the two is only making you look sillier and sillier. Lets just stop it at that. I dont want to have to name all the great fighters Hopkins has derailed in the past.



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McKay.......comparing the level of opposition between the two is only making you look sillier and sillier. Lets just stop it at that. I dont want to have to name all the great fighters Hopkins has derailed in the past.

name them

Trinidad (best win)
De La Hoya
who else

Hopkins is a natural middleweight while Da La Hoya Trinidad etc.. are natural Welterweights or even super lightweights.

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name them

Trinidad (best win)
De La Hoya
who else

Hopkins is a natural middleweight while Da La Hoya Trinidad etc.. are natural Welterweights or even super lightweights.

Jesus christ. Is this necessary? go to boxrec and compare their records......its not even close. Hopkins has fought way better game opposition and fought a better fight against RJJ than Toney did. I had it almost a damn draw.



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