Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs. Mosley is an All-American Bout

[Dave Rado]

and most actually thought corrales(r.i.p.) was going to ko floyd.shane is a good fighter but he has no true defense and he takes waaaaaayyyyyyyy too many punches. i just dont see this as a hard fight for floyd. i have floyd by late round stoppage

He didn't take many punches against Margarito.

[Dave Rado]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJhvYXKZK8 For everyone who doesnt believe that Mosley ducked Mayweather first

DLH, who was Mosley's boss at GBP, didn't want Mosley to take that fight at that time because of the risk that it could derail his own plans to fight Mayweather. No way was it a duck, that's ridiculous. Mosley has called out Mayweather many times since then.

[Dave Rado]

Looking at that fight again Cotto totally dominated that fight. Mosley had like 0 anwsers for Cotto. I don't see how anyone can think Mosley won that fight or say it was close.

Have you seen the punch stats? Fights aren't scored on punch stats, but still, Mosley landed a lot more so-called power punches than Cotto, and to say that the guy who landed more power punches was totally dominated is ridiculous. And at the time, almost every boxing writer said it was extremely close, and some scored it to Mosley.

In terms of rounds, Cotto clearly won rounds 1, 4, 6, and 8. Mosley clearly won rounds 2, 10, and 12. The other 5 rounds were all very close and could be scored either way. That means a score in favour of either fighter is perfectly legitimate.

[mrjoeblive]

Regardless of what happens though we all know a prime Mosley uses Mayweather as Quilted Northern.

perhaps thats how you see it. BUT a prime mosley avoided young floyd. he wanted no part of the young lion hungry for respected scalps. he then avoided him again much later. the only mosley is taking this bout is for a big payday.(nothing wrong with that)shane will be routed by floyd.the simple truth is floyd is a master boxer with offense and the best defense of any boxer fighting today. floyd is a pure boxer who can neutralize an opponets supposed advantage. shane lost to a much slower cotto with not the best defense. how does anyone expect him to have a chance vs floyd? he will need victor conti for this one.

[mrjoeblive]

TK, you are using a little "literary license" there, when you write that Mayweather hadn't been challenged since his fight with Corrales...........

You yourself wrote of that fight that Corrales was almost starved to death tryign to make the weight, that his skin was grey, and his ribs stuck out like a .......

You get the message. Mayweather picked on Corrales positively knowing that he'd left the 130 lb division months before, because of weight problems, and at the same time, needed a big paycheck because of his legal problems {he was already waiting to go to jail for a 2 year sentence for spousal abuse-which he did immediately after the fight} which caused him to need money desperately.

So the Mayweather brains trust jumped at the chance to get the unbeaten, huge punching Corrales at a very bad disadvantage; and they took full advantage.....

You also wrote that when you saw his condition, you knew at once that Corrales in that condition had no chance. His trainer stated that he had a tough time trying to get him to train,(which he did half-heartedy) that he would spend his time in his room, playing computer games when he should have been training.

Larry Merchant stated that in passing Corrales' dressing room just before the fight he saw him scoffing a huge burger sandwich.I've paraphrased your original comments, but I trhink I've stuck close to the facts about this unfortunate fight.

you say all this to say what? the man is suppose to be a pro. he was going to lose this fight no matter what! floyd was way too fast for chico. even if chico didnt have the truck load of problems he would have lost in the same manner. also the "mayweather brain trust" was bob arum. and the boxing public pushed hard for this fight. dont make poor excuses for what was unavoidable

[Dave Rado]

you say all this to say what? the man is suppose to be a pro. he was going to lose this fight no matter what! floyd was way too fast for chico. even if chico didnt have the truck load of problems he would have lost in the same manner.

He may have lost but it would not have been in the same manner. A fully fit Corrales subsequently gave Castillo the toughest fight of his career to that point, and Castillo had previously given Floyd the toughest fight of his career to that point.

The fact is that beating a fighter who isn't fully fit proves nothing. Whether he would have beaten him if he'd been fully fit is pure speculation. Holmes isn't greater than Ali just because he beat Ali. Mayweather would probably have beaten a fully fit Corrales, but it's not certain, and he certainly wouldn't have beaten him in the same way as he beat an unfit and unfocussed Corrales.

[mrjoeblive]

"The greatest fighter ever", (self proclaimed) is still the most boooooring fighter on the PLANET! Go back 8 yrs, and you can actually find an opponent thats not over the hill or undersized!

The MASTER OF AVOIDANCE, will find a way to "PUNK OUT", rather than expose the family traditional "GLASS JAW"!....

the true master of avoidance is all the fighters that ran from floyd then later claim they were avoided

[Dave Rado]

perhaps thats how you see it. BUT a prime mosley avoided young floyd. he wanted no part of the young lion hungry for respected scalps.

That's a ridiculous spin. To call moving up two weight divisions to fight someone who was rated P4P #1 "avoiding" anyone is just ******.

he then avoided him again much later.

That's also wrong. DLH, who was Mosley's boss at GBP, didn't want Mosley to take that fight at that time because of the risk that it could derail his own plans to fight Mayweather in a mega-fight. No way was it a duck, that's ridiculous. Mosley has called out Mayweather many times since then, e.g. after the Collazo fight, and several times last year.

[mrjoeblive]

Mosley is double tough, but at the time the PacMan was focussed on
PBF, who was trying to "LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD"!

When Sugar Shane removes the Pretty One's ...0....I'm sure El PacMAN will accomodate him!...That should be an exciting bout, at least the Sugar Mans' not BOOORING!

to call floyd boring just because he actually knows how to box is past crazy. the sport of boxing is not like you you see on rocky movies. if floyd is so scared and has a glass jaw then he is prime for a big loss. im tired of all the pac fans calling pbf boring. the sweet science is full of great champs that box in the same manner as floyd.once floyd beats shane and then defeat the rest of the welter division you can call him boring all day. just make sure you also call him what he deservs one of the all time greats.

[mrjoeblive]

De la Hoya was washed up when May and Pac fought him. Baldomir was never good and no one who calls themselves a boxing fan should claim he was a legit opponent. Neither was Marquez.

please dont talk about washed up. cotto actually lost to demarcus "chop chop" corley. if it wasn't for that "so what i got paid" ref that interfered by saving cotto from being ko'd by chop chop to GIVING cotto a gift ko. also arum refused to put cotto in the ring with pbf they knew pbf would wreck arums money train. but it wasn't funny how arum abandoned cotto when margocheato was exposed. arum has a history of supporting cheators