UNDEFEATED Records = SU****IOUSNESS; Yea im back SNITCHES!

[DonTaseMeBrah]

If you go undefeated through 5 weight classes.

Umm your pretty ****ing good.

Corralles

Castillo

Hernandez

ALL were suppose to BEAT Floyd.

So was Oscar, Judah, Gatti and Baldimir.

He's a great fighter, no doubt. He has a great skill set, you will never find a posts by me denying that he is a great fighter with a great skill set.

What i deny is the level of greatness he & his delusional fan base claim he has earned.

Seriously, how can you go to war & start spewing greatest of all time, most talented of all time crap when the best fighters on your resume is corrales, castillo, hatton, & old oscar? How can you? Yet when we criticize what he claims you *****s get offended & call us haters.

[jrosales13]

yes, mark johnson is another one. there's a reason why trainers are trainers & managers should be managers. nacho is a perfect example. he almost ruined juan manuel's career & to a certain extent he did by not taking that rematch vs a very green one armed bandit pacquiao. didnt rafa drop beristain? abner mares did too.

Not only did Nacho turned down a rematch with Pac but took way less money and went to Indonesia to fight an unknown at the time in Chris John...

IMO Nacho slowed down JMM and Rafa career... they could of been so much bigger and better.... Rafa has dropped Nacho now... Nacho was basically not giving him no attention and not working with him... So Rafa went with Daniel Zaragosa who is HOF who was also trained by Nacho... And, actually Nacho was the one who dropped Mares. Cuz, Mares signed with Frank Ezpinoza as a manager... And, Ezpinoza is also Izzy Vazquez manager... With the whole Izzy and Rafa rivalry. Nacho let go of Mares....

But, Nacho also IMO messed up Finito career... I think Finito wanted to fight Carbajal and Gonzalez... That was two big money fights... Carbajal and Gonzalez made a million dollars fighting each other in a main even PPV... Nobody in that weight-class has ever done that... So Finito could of been a part of it too but Nacho messed that up... Also the fight with Johnson would of been great... I wanted too see that fight bad.... Damn that Nacho... But, it falls on Finito cuz he is in charge of his team...

[-Reflexes-]

He's a great fighter, no doubt. He has a great skill set, you will never find a posts by me denying that he is a great fighter with a great skill set.

What i deny is the level of greatness he & his delusional fan base claim he has earned.

Seriously, how can you go to war & start spewing greatest of all time, most talented of all time crap when the best fighters on your resume is corrales, castillo, hatton, & old oscar? How can you? Yet when we criticize what he claims you *****s get offended & call us haters.

Hes not the GOAT. No ****. He says that to BAIT guys like you into talking about him 24/7.

Hes one of the greatest fighters of all time.

Watching him boxing is a privelage. Its basic "How to Box: Vol. 1-40."

If you want to teach your son how to box. You'd pop in a Mayweather Jr. tape.

[DiLLiNGER]

LOL Floyd was favored to win all those fights.



WTF are you talking about..

Wtf are you talking about? He was favored for a reason.It's funny how pac fans laughed at floyds win over baldomir but their fighter is fighting clottey a guy who lost to baldomir hahhahahhahahhahahhaha WOW and what about his loss via a body jab..GTFO..FLoyd is The best !!!

[jrosales13]

If you go undefeated through 5 weight classes.

Umm your pretty ****ing good.

Corralles

Castillo

Hernandez

ALL were suppose to BEAT Floyd.

So was Oscar, Judah, Gatti and Baldimir.

With this statement I am done talking about Floyd for the day....

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With this statement I am done talking about Floyd for the day....

Please dont act like I cant bump 1 MILLION threads on this ****. On how people PICKED ALL 4 of them to beat Floyd.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

DontTasemebrah is promoting carelessness and mediocrity by praising LOSERS.

I will repeat again: any idiot on this site can lose a boxing match, it doesnt take much talent. But it takes intense discipline to go 40-0 in your career and 20-0 in championship fights, all while moving up in weight!

Mayweather beats the people he is supposed to beat, a lot of people take that for granted.

Did Pac beat everyone he was supposed to beat?

Did Ali beat everyone he was supposed to beat?

Did Wlad beat everyone he was supposed to beat?

No they all lost fights they were supposed to dominate. I cant stress enough how much discipline it takes to do what Floyd does at the championship level. Mayweather was in severe pain for a lot of those matches and still nutted up and delivered!

If going undefeated while moving through 5 weight classes was so easy, everyone would be doing it. So far, just Mayweather.

im not promoting losing at all. Im promoting fighters taking on the BEST fighters & the best challenges. If you take on the best challenges YOU WILL NOT COME OUT UNSCATHED.

If you take on great opposition & put up a good showing, WIN,LOSE, OR DRAW you win. You win respect, you win admiration, & you never get accused of being a ducker or cherry picker.

It MATTERS BIG TIME when you lose & who you lose to, who you beat & when you beat them.


Ali lost to a all time great in joe frazier. But he also fought 4 or 5 legit hall of famers. Not some borderline hall of famers like fraud jr did.

wladimir lost to brewster & sanders IN HIS PRIME. I dont care, because wlad never claimed all time greatness & slags other all time great fighters.

Pacquiao lost when he was in the beginning stages of his career when he was a malnourished fighter living in abject poverty. He didnt have professional boxers as uncles & fathers like fraud did. he didnt have a olympic background like fraud jr. did. he didnt have the meticulous match making & support of top rank like fraud jr. did. Pac went up the professional ranks the HARD WAY. The fact that he is where he is at right now is utterly amazing & nothing short of miraculous.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

So if you dont lose a fight it means you're weak and avoiding situations??? So when you lose thats when you get better??? Wowwwww

I would rather go with what muhammad Ali said after losing for thr first time against Frazier "anyone can lose and anyone can fall but it takes a man to get UP from a fall"...

exactly. thank you for making my point.

so when has fraud jr. ever "had to get up from a fall?"

[-Reflexes-]

exactly. thank you for making my point.

so when has fraud jr. ever "had to get up from a fall?"

Did it ever cross ur mind that maybe...just maybe Floyd may be that ****ing good?

[Allucard]

Show me a undefeated fighter & I'll show you somebody who hasnt really fought anybody....


Undefeated Records is a mirage. Undefeated records is the hot chick with a missing toe or has a 500mg prescription of valacyclovir.

The greatness of fighters who retire undefeated or currently active can be misleading & should be taken with a grain of salt.

From Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez, to Joe Calzaghe, & to now Fraudulent Mayweather jr., undefeated fighters are su****ious.

Marciano- almost of all of his notable wins were past their prime. I read somewhere his average age of opponents were close to mid 30s. Marciano's record should have a loss, i think in his fight with ezzard charles his nose was grotesquely cut, any other fighter they would have stopped the fight. But since he was going for the undefeated record they let him fight on. Marciano is a great fighter but you wont find any historians saying he's the greatest heavyweight let alone of all time because of his undefeated record.

Ricardo Lopez - 51-0. the great minimum weight boxer trained by nacho beristain is one of the best fighters to come out of mexico but he was a underrated star in his prime. He falls behind julio cesar chavez & my favorite fighter of all time salvador sanchez, as mexico's greatest, most revered fighters. I feel as though he should have went up in weight & challenged himself.

Joe Calzaghe - enough said.

Fraudulent Mayweather - ditto. this fraud has the nerve to say he's the G.O.A.T because he never lost. Whats worse is, some people actually believe it & treat him as such. The reason why i hate this fraud is he disrespects other fighters & had the audacity to say he's better than sugar ray robinson, leonard, & ali because they lost. How can you even claim that when the best fighters on your resume is Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, ricky hatton, & oscar de la hoya?

Zsolt Erdai is undefeated. So is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Joe Calzaghe has more wins than Fraudulent jr., does that mean Calzaghe is better? Hell, joe has two legitimate bonafide greats on his resume, unlike fraudulent jr. who has borderline greats but they get passed off as some full fledged hall of fame locks for the purpose of propping up mayweather.

TRUE GREATNESS NEEDS VERIFICATION. IT NEEDS VERIFICATION IN THE FORM OF GETTING IN THE RING WITH OTHER TRUE GREAT FIGHTERS.

ATG needs verification again, again, & again.


Ray Leonard has lost.
Ray Robinson has lost.
Muhammad Ali has lost.
Michael Jordan has lost.
Roger Federer has lost.
Usain Bolt has lost.
Tom Brady has lost.
Payton Manning has lost.
Tiger Woods has lost.

Every true great legendary fighter has lost. Every true great legendary team or individual sportman has lost.

True greatness means how you respond to a loss. How you challenged yourself. How do you know what you are made of if you have never been put in a dire challenging situation?

LOSSES & DRAWS = a mark of a warrior. they are battle scars. It signifies that you have been challenged by other greats.

NOBODY IS UNBEATABLE. NOBODY.



As for the dbag who reported me & got me tased for a harmless "mayweather mafia is in a precarious situation" thread i made;



Im sorry you feel that way......

Floyd is really the exception there. His record is pretty good. Great actually. If you can't see that and you obviously can't, take your head out of your ass. You'd also be a fool if you think people are reading through all that BS. I won't put u on ignore for now cuz at least you tried to make a point. Still failed though. No one fights everyone. Pacquiao isn't undefeated but he hasn't fought everyone...