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what about him?Originally posted by Remind My Soul View Post
he must be the 2nd greatest fighter of all time behind fraudulent jr.?Comment
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Jordan never lost a finals series :blow:Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View PostShow me a undefeated fighter & I'll show you somebody who hasnt really fought anybody....
Undefeated Records is a mirage. Undefeated records is the hot chick with a missing toe or has a 500mg prescription of valacyclovir.
The greatness of fighters who retire undefeated or currently active can be misleading & should be taken with a grain of salt.
From Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez, to Joe Calzaghe, & to now Fraudulent Mayweather jr., undefeated fighters are su****ious.
Marciano- almost of all of his notable wins were past their prime. I read somewhere his average age of opponents were close to mid 30s. Marciano's record should have a loss, i think in his fight with ezzard charles his nose was grotesquely cut, any other fighter they would have stopped the fight. But since he was going for the undefeated record they let him fight on. Marciano is a great fighter but you wont find any historians saying he's the greatest heavyweight let alone of all time because of his undefeated record.
Ricardo Lopez - 51-0. the great minimum weight boxer trained by nacho beristain is one of the best fighters to come out of mexico but he was a underrated star in his prime. He falls behind julio cesar chavez & my favorite fighter of all time salvador sanchez, as mexico's greatest, most revered fighters. I feel as though he should have went up in weight & challenged himself.
Joe Calzaghe - enough said.
Fraudulent Mayweather - ditto. this fraud has the nerve to say he's the G.O.A.T because he never lost. Whats worse is, some people actually believe it & treat him as such. The reason why i hate this fraud is he disrespects other fighters & had the audacity to say he's better than sugar ray robinson, leonard, & ali because they lost. How can you even claim that when the best fighters on your resume is Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, ricky hatton, & oscar de la hoya?
Zsolt Erdai is undefeated. So is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Joe Calzaghe has more wins than Fraudulent jr., does that mean Calzaghe is better? Hell, joe has two legitimate bonafide greats on his resume, unlike fraudulent jr. who has borderline greats but they get passed off as some full fledged hall of fame locks for the purpose of propping up mayweather.
TRUE GREATNESS NEEDS VERIFICATION. IT NEEDS VERIFICATION IN THE FORM OF GETTING IN THE RING WITH OTHER TRUE GREAT FIGHTERS.
ATG needs verification again, again, & again.
Ray Leonard has lost.
Ray Robinson has lost.
Muhammad Ali has lost.
Michael Jordan has lost.
Roger Federer has lost.
Usain Bolt has lost.
Tom Brady has lost.
Payton Manning has lost.
Tiger Woods has lost.
Every true great legendary fighter has lost. Every true great legendary team or individual sportman has lost.
True greatness means how you respond to a loss. How you challenged yourself. How do you know what you are made of if you have never been put in a dire challenging situation?
LOSSES & DRAWS = a mark of a warrior. they are battle scars. It signifies that you have been challenged by other greats.
NOBODY IS UNBEATABLE. NOBODY.
As for the dbag who reported me & got me tased for a harmless "mayweather mafia is in a precarious situation" thread i made;
Im sorry you feel that way......
But agreed, no one really buys undefeated = greatest. Not in boxing atleast!Comment
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Just because Floyd makes 40-0 look easy doesnt mean anyone can do it. This is not ping pong or, water polo, Its a dangerous activity where one lapse in judgement can ruin your entire career. 20 of his last 23 opponents were against champions or top challengers with the main WBC belt on the line.Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
He spent 1998-2007 against trained warriors who all wanted to knock his block off. They may not have been the best, but they were all top professionally trained boxers. Pacquiao lost twice in that same time frame, the Klitschkos lost 5 times in that time frame. The reason Floyd is superior to them as well as other fighters is that he wins the fights hes supposed to.
Pacquiao lost to Rustico Torrevampo
Pacquiao lost to Singsurat
Wladamir lost to Ross Puritty
Wladamir lost to Brewster
What do all of those matches have in common? None of these guys were consider the BEST. These were all bums Pacquiao and Wlad were supposed to kill but didnt. Thats what makes Floyd great. Not only does Floyd win the superfights against Diego, Hatton and DLH, but he also wins the not so superfights as well. Its called consistency, and always staying on top of your game. Discipline. Greatness!
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Break down who he didn't fight, who he avoided, and why his undefeated records smells of su****ion.Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View PostComment
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So I guess a fight doesn't count as a challenge unless you lose then?Comment
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Damn wen I said this cuz Im a PBF fan; another PBF fan was mad as **** lol, but yea man PBF is good but he did duck a few ppl, the only way he makes it look good is cuz he points out that he made more money with his other choice.Originally posted by SkilledB View PostComment
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LOL, Dontasemebrah is probably scrambling trying to find out who ricardo lopez is.
Typical.
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in the roman days, gladiators... loss was death. So the undefeated, were in fact, the best.
Thats why people get it confused, and credit undefeated so much, is because we are still very much in a Roman mindset.
But boxing with its fixedness, and decisions and ducking, dodging, and politics, is different than what used to go down in the great colliseum... So, I'm shocked to say I agree with you.
Don't worry, it won't lastLast edited by Syf; 01-28-2010, 02:24 PM.Comment
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This thread is dumb.
Floyd was favored to lose to Hernandez, Castillo and Corralles.
So if he walks through Pac and Mosley and still undefeated...he aint fought nobody??
Thats crap.Comment
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