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  • #81
    Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
    Im arguing with you thinking his resume was way greater not that it was actually better, cause really if Calzaghe scaled down and faced some A class but much smaller fighters he would be on a similar level.

    Heavy favorite? so what Oscar was H.favorite vs Pac
    he did his entire career cept they weren't a class they were bums. calzaghe scaled down to avoid all the challenges. the guy even admitted to draining himself over 30 pounds just to make weight for every fight. he should have moved up to his natural weight but he wanted to pick on smaller fighters so he could gain an advantage while avoiding all the good fighters like jones at a more natural weight. disgusting.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      When did Tito fall out of his prime?

      And why do you keep bringing up De La Hoya when I haven't mentioned it at all? Like I said it's a good win or something?
      tito is not a middleweight,so if a fighter is in his prime he can just beat anyone one from any division? if so what is the point of weight classes

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      • #83
        Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
        Please tell me what fighter says he is in **** condition pre fight?
        And that same fighter offers up an excuse should they lose right? Which do you believe?

        An yeah fighters do have excuses post fight your gonna tell me Hattons camp for Pac was the best he ever had now lol? even after all the bull**** with Floyd SR
        I'm telling you that I'm not interested in what they say beforehand ("I'm in great shape!") or afterwards ("Actually I wasn't."). I'm more concerned with what happens in between.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by markkerr101 View Post
          The guy has 20 something title defenses. how is that overrated if anything he was underrated until he fought de la hoya
          BRB gonna find 20 bums of the street and beat em, what the **** does 20 title defenses really matter? its the opposition faced which him and Calzaghe are sadly lacking in there 20+ reigns

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          • #85
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            he did his entire career cept they weren't a class they were bums. calzaghe scaled down to avoid all the challenges. the guy even admitted to draining himself over 30 pounds just to make weight for every fight. he should have moved up to his natural weight but he wanted to pick on smaller fighters so he could gain an advantage. disgusting.
            he drained himself so much that he was the smaller fighter against bernard

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            • #86
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              he did his entire career cept they weren't a class they were bums. calzaghe scaled down to avoid all the challenges. the guy even admitted to draining himself over 30 pounds just to make weight for every fight. he should have moved up to his natural weight but he wanted to pick on smaller fighters so he could gain an advantage while avoiding all the good fighters like jones at a more natural weight. disgusting.
              Yep him and Hopkins are fairly similar i agree

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              • #87
                Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                tito is not a middleweight,so if a fighter is in his prime he can just beat anyone one from any division? if so what is the point of weight classes
                Are you implying that fighters can't move up or they automatically fall out of their prime? Are you on crack? Tito looked at his best at 154, not welter. And at 160 he looked spectacular before facing Hopkins, against the world's #2 middle.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  you still wont answer why calzaghe and hatton drain themselves over 30 pounds to make weight yet hopkins didn't have to drain himself at all to make 160. he lived there for his whole career. yet he's a natural light heavy cause he fought once when he was a part time boxer? laughable. you seem to take pride in being ignorant and uninformed.

                  lol....hopkins LOOKS LIKE A LIGHTHEAVY...even when he was starving himself at 160...he looked like a f'ing crackhead at 160...even steward says hopkins is really a lightheavy all the f'ing time...this isn't something that i just believe bud...

                  ..and personally, i don't care if hatton and calzaghe drain down 100 lbs. to make weight in between fights...they both entered boxing in one division, remained in that division, and established themselves there win or lose..calzaghe fought his entire career at 168...hatton @ jr. welter, jumped up to 147 here and there, but thats not the same as hopkins....don't you get it?

                  ...and if calzaghe is really a cruiserweight like you claim him to be, why did he visibly look smaller than hopkins when they fought?, despite the fact that you still think hopkins is a middleweight?.....aw man i'm getting a real good laugh tonite..

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                    he drained himself so much that he was the smaller fighter against bernard
                    no hopkins was at his best at middleweight remember. you just said where was kessler at his best so my oh my have the tables turned hypocrite boy. calzaghe was finally fighting at a more natural weight class against a smaller opponent and still got decked. twice! unbelievable.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Are you implying that fighters can't move up or they automatically fall out of their prime? Are you on crack? Tito looked at his best at 154, not welter. And at 160 he looked spectacular before facing Hopkins, against the world's #2 middle.
                      please man joppy wasn't all that...tailor made for tito...

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