Mayweather-Chavez @130, underrated gem inside

[jkaisen41]

Well he did KO Hatton when 43 others failed to even get the W against him and he did KD Marquez who only Pacquiao also managed to do, thanks to the bulletproof meth.

I watched the movie yesterday... Pitt is bad a$$ in this one *lol*

[jkaisen41]

We can talk boxing but no need for flames and insults. I thought Allucard was making a case for Floyd's power when he quoted me. Yes, Hatton won but be barely got by Collazo and appeared to be out on his feet in the 12th. It was the hardest win of his career against a guy whos considered a gatekeeper @ ww

I would think that even though Collazo is not elite IMO he was still if you look at his skill as a boxer probably one of the best Hatton had fought... I think that played a role as well...

Hatton seemed not as effective at 147 as he was at 140 I'll give you that though... but you still said that it was a good win for May... I think so too...

[El Protagonista]

but i don't think it had anything to do with weight if anything they say that hatton weighs around 180 when he is not gettin ready for a fight so if anything he should be more comfortable at 147n i also feel like at that point that the ww division was the strongest division in boxing where ricky was fighting at 140 and could have arguablly been 1 of the weakest divisions at that point in time

Good points. To the bold: You would think so becuase he blows up so much like you said but if I remember he came in a little light against Mayweather.

[jkaisen41]

I actually found is other fights difficult to fight especially the Carlos Hernandez one were he was officially "Knocked down" by his own hands, I see this fight all the time on Youtube, I like this fight because it was fought at a high pace, Chavez was pushing Mayweather really hard and he never really got any credit for it in the end.

Like you and so many people have said we dont see that Mayweather anymore due to moving up in weight and his hands, He had to fight at a slower pace now and he to be more defensive to prolong is career but i definitely prefer the offensive minded Mayweather because he was a joy to watch.

Yeah, the Famoso fight is hard to get too... Famoso was also a very solid fighter who was also a champion and who went on to fight Chavez and Morales afterwards... actually he broke both of his hands in this fight and was fighting with it from the 7th round on I believe *looooooooooool*

Yeah, I agree... he found a way to still be successful... I still love to watch him but of course I wouldn't have anything against it if he fights like the 130 version again *looooooooooooooooooool* Sadly as he wanted to fight Mosley at 135... Shane moved up... that would have been one fight... Shane at 135 was also a different fighter... pair that against the 130 Floyd... booooooooooooooooooooooooooooi I tell yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[deliveryman]

Ah yes, the fight where Harold Lederman was obviously ****-faced.

Probably the worst scorecard I've ever seen from him. Some how he gave Chavez the first round???

[jkaisen41]

Ah yes, the fight where Harold Lederman was obviously ****-faced.

Probably the worst scorecard I've ever seen from him. Some how he gave Chavez the first round???

Finally... someone said it... that was basically the only reason I posted it... to expose Lederman *loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

[Ray*]

Yeah, the Famoso fight is hard to get too... Famoso was also a very solid fighter who was also a champion and who went on to fight Chavez and Morales afterwards... actually he broke both of his hands in this fight and was fighting with it from the 7th round on I believe *looooooooooool*

Yeah, I agree... he found a way to still be successful... I still love to watch him but of course I wouldn't have anything against it if he fights like the 130 version again *looooooooooooooooooool* Sadly as he wanted to fight Mosley at 135... Shane moved up... that would have been one fight... Shane at 135 was also a different fighter... pair that against the 130 Floyd... booooooooooooooooooooooooooooi I tell yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Mosley-Mayweather at 135 would have been a fight, I saw Mosley live against some british fighter who was based in america (adrian stone i think) and the way Mosley KO stone scared the **** out of me, the speed,power and intensity was out of this world, I think Mosley would probably a slight favourite for me if Mayweather had moved up from 130 to 135 to fight Mosley.

Ah yes, the fight where Harold Lederman was obviously ****-faced.

Probably the worst scorecard I've ever seen from him. Some how he gave Chavez the first round???

To be honest i dont really pay much attention to Harold lederman, He sway alot of people with the wrong scorecard alot of times and its funny when people quote his scorecards sometimes like its the gospel.

[Allucard]

Didn't Barrera put Marquez down?

Not sure. Think not but i could be wrong. I think Mayweather career has been underrated and not only the lightweight part of it. Fact is, he's easy to hate and people who don't usually think by themselves and have no initiative (or a woman btw) really go with the hate train.
In a month people will be acting like Mayweather ducked Pacquiao forgetting completely who called the fight off. The same way they almost made that good fight disappear.

[jrosales13]

Casamayor was a good fighter... I heard Floyd in interviews many times saying he wanted to fight Casa... but it never materialised... would have been something for the boxing purists

Yea and Casamayor wanted it too, so did Freitas who was also an undefeated title holder along with Floyd and Casamayor at 130...

All 3 were in the same weight-class undefeated, in their prime and champs... Freitas at the time a 100% KO ratio...

The only reason why no fights materialized at the time... was due to Floyd being an HBO fighter while Casa and Freitas were Showtime fighters... Those fights were not big enough to make HBO and Show come together like it did for Lewis-Tyson... That is why we Casa-Freitas but never saw Floyd against either of them... Even though everybody involved was willing to fight...

[jrosales13]

Not sure. Think not but i could be wrong. I think Mayweather career has been underrated and not only the lightweight part of it. Fact is, he's easy to hate and people who don't usually think by themselves and have no initiative (or a woman btw) really go with the hate train.
In a month people will be acting like Mayweather ducked Pacquiao forgetting completely who called the fight off. The same way they almost made that good fight disappear.

Yea Barrera dropped and he was also dropped in a few other fights...