Mayweather-Chavez @130, underrated gem inside

[Doctor_Tenma]

Joel Casamayor

Agree 100%

I would have LOVED to see that.

[El Protagonista]

I guess it is because mostly if somebody starts a fantasy match up you always think of your fighter as he was the best... but I always said that matches like Floyd-Leonard or Floyd-Robinson are simply unfair... because welter is their ideal weight and Floyd started at 130... so you have to compare him against other 130 pounders...

JuanMa is a good fighter... lots of ppl are down on him after Mtagwa... but it is good for a young fighter to go through this... until then he could swing and beat opponents simply by power... if he learned the right things out of this he can still become a great boxer IMO. I was impressed with the Luevano fight. Dude is not a hard hitter but a good boxer... JuanMa decided to take it to him which was why he got hit a few times... but wasn't as recklessly as against Mtagwa... and stopped him... I was impressed from what I've seen.

I don't understand those fantasy fights either because of the weight like you said. A more realistic fantasy match of Mayweather vs an ATG would be against maybe Roberto Duran @ 135. This is more realistic to talk about given Their styles, weights, and talents.

I was impressed with the Juanma win as well. It was a good finish and name for his resume. However, I'm worried he might be falling in love with his power and forgetting the basics.

[Allucard]

Yes I think moving up in weight has taken a toll on a guy who wasn't all that powerful to begin with. Mix that with his brittle hands and he's just not that same guy which is why I think it's funny when people use Floyd and destroy in the same sentence to describe future and fantasy fight outcomes.

Well he did KO Hatton when 43 others failed to even get the W against him and he did KD Marquez who only Pacquiao also managed to do, thanks to the bulletproof meth.

[Sweet Jesus]

Well he did KO Hatton when 43 others failed to even get the W against him and he did KD Marquez who only Pacquiao also managed to do, thanks to the bulletproof meth.

Didn't Barrera put Marquez down?

[El Protagonista]

Well he did KO Hatton when 43 others failed to even get the W against him and he did KD Marquez who only Pacquiao also managed to do, thanks to the bulletproof meth.

Yes but Hatton moved up in weight for that fight and Floyd was the bigger man. Great win for Mayweather though. The Marquez KD was a testament of Floyd's great timing not power. He didn't have him hurt the way Juan Diaz did.

[Sweet Jesus]

Yes but Hatton moved up in weight for that fight and Floyd was the bigger man. Great win for Mayweather though. The Marquez KD was a testament of Floyd's great timing not power. He didn't have him hurt the way Juan Diaz did.

Hatton was a former WBA WW champ, so it wasn't the first time he had ever been at WW. Plus, nobody calls Mayweather a hard puncher at 147.

[El Protagonista]

Hatton was a former WBA WW champ, so it wasn't the first time he had ever been at WW. Plus, nobody calls Mayweather a hard puncher at 147.

We can talk boxing but no need for flames and insults. I thought Allucard was making a case for Floyd's power when he quoted me. Yes, Hatton won but be barely got by Collazo and appeared to be out on his feet in the 12th. It was the hardest win of his career against a guy whos considered a gatekeeper @ ww

[Ray*]

This fight is also hard to come by... I searched it for years on my download station but only the other Chavez is there that he fought... God Bless the Tube *looooooooooooooooool*

I actually found is other fights difficult to fight especially the Carlos Hernandez one were he was officially "Knocked down" by his own hands, I see this fight all the time on Youtube, I like this fight because it was fought at a high pace, Chavez was pushing Mayweather really hard and he never really got any credit for it in the end.

Like you and so many people have said we dont see that Mayweather anymore due to moving up in weight and his hands, He had to fight at a slower pace now and he to be more defensive to prolong is career but i definitely prefer the offensive minded Mayweather because he was a joy to watch.

[letsgobrady]

We can talk boxing but no need for flames and insults. I thought Allucard was making a case for Floyd's power when he quoted me. Yes, Hatton won but be barely got by Collazo and appeared to be out on his feet in the 12th. It was the hardest win of his career against a guy whos considered a gatekeeper @ ww

but i don't think it had anything to do with weight if anything they say that hatton weighs around 180 when he is not gettin ready for a fight so if anything he should be more comfortable at 147n i also feel like at that point that the ww division was the strongest division in boxing where ricky was fighting at 140 and could have arguablly been 1 of the weakest divisions at that point in time

[jkaisen41]

I don't understand those fantasy fights either because of the weight like you said. A more realistic fantasy match of Mayweather vs an ATG would be against maybe Roberto Duran @ 135. This is more realistic to talk about given Their styles, weights, and talents.

I was impressed with the Juanma win as well. It was a good finish and name for his resume. However, I'm worried he might be falling in love with his power and forgetting the basics.

Yeah, def. Duran-Mayweather would have been interesting... Duran had pretty good punching power at 135.

Yeah, I can feel you... but I think it was because his last opponent wouldn't have brought the fight to him... so he fought more aggressive because he ain't wanted it to be a 12 round boxing match... I felt in this fight he learned his lesson he was more poise even though he wanted to put him away... I guess the future will tell