Who do you blame for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fallout?

[ThePunchingBag]

I don't care they would need a reason, I don't want to see more ********* attacks so what needs to be done needs to be done. You act like I said I want people to just have their houses ransacked, but if a couple innocent people get hassled to weed out *********s that is the price that needs to be paid.

Yes, you only say this because you are not one of those innocents.

A transgression against one is a transgression against all.

Sorry dude. You sound like you'd bend over and take it in the ass if a cop pulled you over and told you to.

[MaD RoBoT]

Inferior testing, there are better ways to test for PED then what he has passed. Also the main reason to do random tests to to keep people from cheating in the first place because it is much more risky.

No it is not, if this never came up I would not have cared much but once you start fighting better testing I need to see those tests happean.

inferior testing?

has anyone been caught by these random testing?

what about NSAC? i know you're gonna bring up Shane, but what about Toney? Roy? Chavez, jr? Salita? Omar Nino?

you heard of Marion Jones? she passed the olympic testing without a sweat

[The Gambler1981]

No, you have to remember Manny and Floyd are both pumped up alphas. If a bitter rival accused you of cheating, you are NOT going to bend to HIS demands in order to qualify yourself to him. You are going to tell him to man the **** up and fight, telling him to leave the drug testing the commission professionals.

What does Floyd Mayweather know about steroids? I doubt he can even spell the word.

Pride and hubris are not valid excuses and that is why Manny is at fault. He should have manned up and done the tests and not be a ***** about it.

What you are saying is naive at best, get off Manny's **** and accept his part of the blame.

[The Gambler1981]

Yes, you only say this because you are not one of those innocents.

A transgression against one is a transgression against all.

Sorry dude. You sound like you'd bend over and take it in the ass if a cop pulled you over and told you to.

It is not that black and white, sure it would suck for them but that is the time we are in. Sure it sucks that we threw the Japanese people in conncentration camps but that was what the times called for, that is way worse then what you are talking about.


Sometimes the situation calls for terrible choices to be made, but the needs of the many out weight the desires of the few.

[The Gambler1981]

inferior testing?

has anyone been caught by these random testing?

what about NSAC? i know you're gonna bring up Shane, but what about Toney? Roy? Chavez, jr? Salita? Omar Nino?

you heard of Marion Jones? she passed the olympic testing without a sweat

More would be cauhgt and even more would be disuaded with random testing. Is Manny not one of the top guys in the sport? Should he not be setting the example?

USADA and people in the NSAC have said their testing is sub standard in the world of athletics, since boxing is one of the most dangerous sports the best testing method should be embraced not foguth tooth and nail.

Your arguement is weak, the test should have been taken.

[ThePunchingBag]

It is not that black and white, sure it would suck for them but that is the time we are in. Sure it sucks that we threw the Japanese people in conncentration camps but that was what the times called for, that is way worse then what you are talking about.

So you'd bend over and take it in the ass because that is the time we are in?

That's just an excuse to justify your weakness to giving in to authority.

No my friend. There is never a time where it is justified to have a man prove himself innocent unless there is hard evidence that he is guilty.

What we did to the Japanese should have been a lesson in morality.

Unfortunately, people as a whole refuse to learn from the past and ignorantly forge ahead to their future.

[MaD RoBoT]

More would be cauhgt and even more would be disuaded with random testing. Is Manny not one of the top guys in the sport? Should he not be setting the example?

USADA and people in the NSAC have said their testing is sub standard in the world of athletics, since boxing is one of the most dangerous sports the best testing method should be embraced not foguth tooth and nail.

Your arguement is weak, the test should have been taken.

how come its weak? its very simple really

if Floyd really is up to his mission to clean this sport, then he should petition it on a governing body & have them decide whats the best option

instead he just blurted out to the boxing media that Phils has the best PEDs etc, etc etc

you should be able see this from the beginning that all Floyd wants is to stir up Pac's mind, to distract him

[The Gambler1981]

So you'd bend over and take it in the ass because that is the time we are in?

That's just an excuse to justify your weakness to giving in to authority.

No my friend. There is never a time where it is justified to have a man prove himself innocent unless there is hard evidence that he is guilty.

What we did to the Japanese should have been a lesson in morality.

Unfortunately, people as a whole refuse to learn from the past and ignorantly forge ahead to their future.

IF the world was a place of flowers and lollipops maybe you would have a point, but the world is a harsh cold places where people will take advantage of any weakness. Ideally everyone can live free and do as they wish without anyone telling them otherwise but in the real world that will only get you bent over~

Sometimes it sucks for the needs of the many things need to be done.

This really has no bearing on the situation at hand, the is the PED era in sports it sucks for athletes that they live under this cloud but no athlete is trusthworth on the matter as it is human nature to want an edge, in boxing looking for an edge would be even bigger since it is such a tough sport. All athletes need to be tested in teh toughest possible manner.

[The Gambler1981]

how come its weak? its very simple really

if Floyd really is up to his mission to clean this sport, then he should petition it on a governing body & have them decide whats the best option

instead he just blurted out to the boxing media that Phils has the best PEDs etc, etc etc

you should be able see this from the beginning that all Floyd wants is to stir up Pac's mind, to distract him

It has nothing to do with cleaning up the sport, it has to do with what he thinks about this specific fight. If he think Manny is not right for any reason he has the right to ask, he is the one getting in the ring so he above any other has the right to know.

Floyd says a bunch of garbage so why would I care about one statement when FLoyd was clearly pissed and talking out of his ass, a statement that is not even definitive. Maybe he truly believe the Phillipines has the best bio-tech industry, the Phillipines should take that as a compliment that he thinks they are so advanced.

Think whatever you want but you are reaching pulling out all kinds of stuff that really does not matter, Manny should have taken the tests then none of this would have happeaned. If you can not see that whatever my points have been made you refuse to accept them.

[ThePunchingBag]

IF the world was a place of flowers and lollipops maybe you would have a point, but the world is a harsh cold places where people will take advantage of any weakness. Ideally everyone can live free and do as they wish without anyone telling them otherwise but in the real world that will only get you bent over~

Sometimes it sucks for the needs of the many things need to be done.

This really has no bearing on the situation at hand, the is the PED era in sports it sucks for athletes that they live under this cloud but no athlete is trusthworth on the matter as it is human nature to want an edge, in boxing looking for an edge would be even bigger since it is such a tough sport. All athletes need to be tested in teh toughest possible manner.

So you wish to impose your personal view of the world on others?.....

Yes, that is the tyrannical approach.

Your delusion that the world is harsh and cold is merely an opinion for which you have no evidence.

Ahh... But as long as you are sitting comfortably, damn the rest!

Your utilitarian approach to the world is naive. If you feel it is necessary to sacrifice some for the commonwealth of the rest, then why don't you offer up yourself as the sacrifice?

Or is it only convenient to say that when you are not being put under the magnifying glass?

No, until you see that an affront to one, is merely just a door waiting to be opened for the same to eventually happen to you, then you will continue to live under bitter su****ion.

As for PED's, we have boxing commissions to dictate the rules of drug testing.

A fighter's duty is to fight and put on a good show for the fans.

If the fighter has a complaint about the testing procedures then he should take it up with the commission that oversees the drug testing.

That is the proper way of making real change happen.