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  • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
    agreed roach and team pac havent fought the best in a wt class since jmm.we live inan era of pretty weak welterweights, these guys even then wont step up, this **** about manny facing the best is pure bull****, mayweather though is even worse,as hes been fiten liteweights!! i must say they deserve to fight each other then fight mosley.both guys get too much credit where credit is not due.
    Fairly rational response.I'm not sure who is more guilty of being spoon-fed opponents,but you have to consider the state of Manny's last several opponents and contrast them to when Floyd fought them.I would believe Oscar and Hatton had more quality when Floyd faced them,and Cotto seemed to lose a lot of fire after getting torn apart by a Margarito who may or may not have used illegal means. This Clottey fight is a joke-at times he looked to take time off in rounds against a weaker version of Cotto and still made it a close fight.I'm not too sure I can say Manny is greater than Floyd...maybe more popular,but his achievements don't look as brilliant as his fans would suggest when you actually break them down.

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    • Originally posted by chito View Post
      vs. jmm, pbf went beyond 144. asking pac to submit to random testing is not a common law in boxing at present. pbf & pac are in the professional boxing not the olympics.
      Holyfield vs Tyson - Had random blood tests

      A. Abraham - Current participant of the super six has blood testing in ALL of his contracts

      ***Three points***

      1. PBF isn't the first to ask for random blood tests!!! - Pac defenders fail to realize or even better ACKNOWLEDGE this!

      2. The vast VAST majority of people - IN nearly EVERY POLL are very aware of how EXTREMELY fair a 14 day window is!

      3. Arum, Roach and PAC are losing credibility DAILY by THEIR EXCUSES and LIES.

      In a nutshell if PBF doesn't fight Shane Mosley, He's a coward for not fighting a guy who's willing to submit to his every request in much the same way that PAC is a coward for BACKING out of the PBF/PAC fight with LIES and EXCUSES! Especially after PBF agreed to ALL of his demands.

      Peace MO!

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      • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
        Fairly rational response.I'm not sure who is more guilty of being spoon-fed opponents,but you have to consider the state of Manny's last several opponents and contrast them to when Floyd fought them.I would believe Oscar and Hatton had more quality when Floyd faced them,and Cotto seemed to lose a lot of fire after getting torn apart by a Margarito who may or may not have used illegal means. This Clottey fight is a joke-at times he looked to take time off in rounds against a weaker version of Cotto and still made it a close fight.I'm not too sure I can say Manny is greater than Floyd...maybe more popular,but his achievements don't look as brilliant as his fans would suggest when you actually break them down.
        Very good post!

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        • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          Manny Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach doesn't think much about Floyd Mayweather Jr's selection of welterweight opponents over the last few years. Speaking with Gareth Davies of The Telegraph Sport, Roach said Mayweather lacks the courage to fight the toughest guys in his division and money is not enough to motivate him. [Click Here To Read More]
          tell us something we dont know roach.

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          • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
            Fairly rational response.I'm not sure who is more guilty of being spoon-fed opponents,but you have to consider the state of Manny's last several opponents and contrast them to when Floyd fought them.I would believe Oscar and Hatton had more quality when Floyd faced them,and Cotto seemed to lose a lot of fire after getting torn apart by a Margarito who may or may not have used illegal means. This Clottey fight is a joke-at times he looked to take time off in rounds against a weaker version of Cotto and still made it a close fight.I'm not too sure I can say Manny is greater than Floyd...maybe more popular,but his achievements don't look as brilliant as his fans would suggest when you actually break them down.
            i totally agree floyd fought a better oscar and hatton, floyd beat an out of his wt class jmm ,however the manner in which he beat him offsets mannys victories over common opponents, it does lead u to believe thereis a possibility floyd could easily beat pac. u oh here comes the hate!!!! im a fn of niether.

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            • Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
              i totally agree floyd fought a better oscar and hatton, floyd beat an out of his wt class jmm ,however the manner in which he beat him offsets mannys victories over common opponents, it does lead u to believe thereis a possibility floyd could easily beat pac. u oh here comes the hate!!!! im a fn of niether.
              One of the bigger points of this that gets lost is the fact that ODLH was a BONA FIDE JR MIDDLEWEIGHT - NOT A WW - Hell, PBF couldn't even make the weight, he weighed 152lbs for that fight???

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              • Hey nuthuggers

                Has anyone from the mayweather team, or anyone in general, BALCO, money-hungry former team pac members, reporters, analysts...


                HAS ANYONE BROUGHT ANY LEGITIMATE EVIDENCE AS TO WHY PAC SHOULD BE TESTED OR EVEN THOUGHT TO HAVE USED PEDs TO BEGIN WITH?

                NO?

                Then shut the fkc up.

                Hating cause PAC's fighting a real welterweight in Clottey and Mayweather still hasn't announced sht about his next fight.

                MOSLEY? Not till they're both in the ring will i believe that bullsht.

                MOSLEY is a tough fight, FOR ANYONE. In saying so, I will remind everyone that Mayweather is made of all white meat, tender juicy chicken. He aint fighting Mosley. That I am for damn sure.

                If he does, I'd be happy for him and his nuthuggers.

                Until then ladies and ladies...

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                • this is no news. everyone knows floyd is a *****.if he wasn't he would have already fought the likes of cotto, margarito and mosley. he admits himself that he doesn't think it is cool to get hit in boxing. the real question now is will he fight mosley when that is the only fight out there and he needs to take it. FLOYD IF YOU DON'T FIGHT MOSLEY YOUR WHOLE REPUTATION IS TARNISHED FOR GOOD.

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                  • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
                    Fairly rational response.I'm not sure who is more guilty of being spoon-fed opponents,but you have to consider the state of Manny's last several opponents and contrast them to when Floyd fought them.I would believe Oscar and Hatton had more quality when Floyd faced them,and Cotto seemed to lose a lot of fire after getting torn apart by a Margarito who may or may not have used illegal means. This Clottey fight is a joke-at times he looked to take time off in rounds against a weaker version of Cotto and still made it a close fight.I'm not too sure I can say Manny is greater than Floyd...maybe more popular,but his achievements don't look as brilliant as his fans would suggest when you actually break them down.
                    it's funny that people throw out a guy like cotto who is still considered a top 10 p4p. yea he's complete ****. you people are ****ing idiots. pac's win over him will be remembered as one of the greatest performances in boxing history. oscar and hatton they were ****. the only difference there is that floyd actually had pretty decent fights with them whereas manny just beat the **** out them like a champ should do. and clottey is arguably the toughest guy in the division to fight right next to mosley. what sport do you ******s watch.

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                    • "he fights the right guys with the right styles"

                      WELL WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOUR OLD ASS HAS BEEN DOING WITH YOUR PINOY LOVER!!!! PACQUIAO STILL HAS YET TO FIGHT SOMEONE WITH SLICK BOXING SKILLS THAT CAN MOVE AROUND THE RING, HMMM LETS TAKE A LOOK AT PACQUIAOS LAST 5 OPPONENTS:
                      1)DAVID DIAZ- CLUB FIGHTER JUST STOOD THERE
                      2) ODLH- GUY JUST STOOD THERE FROM BEING THIRSTY
                      3) HATTON - DUMASS CAME AT HIM LIKE A TON OF BRICKS
                      4) COTTO- THE GUY JUST STOOD THERE AS WELL
                      THE LAST GUY TO HAVE SPEED+SLICK BOXING SKILLS WAS NONE OTHER THAN JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ, FLOYD JR. IS JMM times 824020 better, roach knows his boy would his lose to floyd, stfu roach.


                      "has never been the bravest guy"

                      this is coming from the trainer of a guy who doesnt wanna look at a needle 48 hours before the fight because it makes 'em 'queezy'. ****in roach needds stfu bcuz his training skills will only take em so far, hes just diggin a bigger hole for when pacquiao loses he can come up with another ***** ass excuse

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