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  • #31
    Originally posted by -Reflexes- View Post
    Bolded........
    He wasnt tailor made. Most of boxingscene said this was a dangerous fight for Gamboa.


    Mtagwa was beating Lopez's ass. Juanma looked terrible. He beat Luevano by KO like I said he would. It was a good win.




    He hasnt accomplished more. But as far as skills. Gamboa is more skilled and talented then Pac.
    BURNER I never said it was going to be a tough fight my man. I picked Gamboa right out of the gate. 25 and others thought it would be a tough fight. I think 25 thought Mtagwa might even beat Gamboa. My honest thought when we talked it over and I can probably get you the show # and time to go listen is that Gamboa was going to KO Mtagwa. He did it a little bit faster than I predicted but that was my thought. As far as tailor made speed was no where near comparable and Gamboa is much stronger than mostly anyone at 122-130. I thinkMtagwa's fight against Juanma was at 122lbs right? he did not look anywhere near the size of Gamboa. Do not get me wrong I am not saying it was not a great W I am just aying style wise it was or should have been a easy fight.

    Juanma is more balanced he don't have blazing speed or the punches you don't see coming like Gamboa throws. I can hardily wait until they fight...Lefty

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    • #32
      Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View Post
      BURNER I never said it was going to be a tough fight my man. I picked Gamboa right out of the gate. 25 and others thought it would be a tough fight. I think 25 thought Mtagwa might even beat Gamboa. My honest thought when we talked it over and I can probably get you the show # and time to go listen is that Gamboa was going to KO Mtagwa. He did it a little bit faster than I predicted but that was my thought. As far as tailor made speed was no where near comparable and Gamboa is much stronger than mostly anyone at 122-130. I thinkMtagwa's fight against Juanma was at 122lbs right? he did not look anywhere near the size of Gamboa. Do not get me wrong I am not saying it was not a great W I am just aying style wise it was or should have been a easy fight.

      Juanma is more balanced he don't have blazing speed or the punches you don't see coming like Gamboa throws. I can hardily wait until they fight...Lefty
      They next fights gon be crazy.

      Gamboa fighting in Germany March 27th. Then he fighting C.C. in June.

      Lopez suppose to fight Concepeion or Santaiago in June...........then Lopez fighting Rafa in September.
      Last edited by -Reflexes-; 01-25-2010, 12:19 PM.

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      • #33
        Lol at the TS, thats all I have to say!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by -Reflexes- View Post
          Are you kidding Pac doesnt have half the natural talent, athletic ability, skills or reflexes of Gamboa. Get real.


          If comparing Gamboa to Lopez is disrespectful to Gamboa.

          Then this is just as disrespectful to Pacquiao.

          Don't get me wrong, Gamboa's a monster, but people are riding his nuts pretty hard lately.

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          • #35
            I would compare the two to Jones and Hopkins (Not necessarily their fighting styles, stay with me).

            Gamboa depends on his natural athletic ability, speed, reflexes, etc.
            Lopez is less athletically gifted, but is better fundamentally, can box, can punch, is tough etc.

            I expect Lopez will have more long term sucess than Gamboa, assuming the two live up to potential. But Gamboas sucess will be more spectacular.

            Hoping people understand my analogy...

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            • #36
              Reflexes = Burner? Mannnnnnn.

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              • #37
                The sudden wave of fanaticism for Gamboa has me laughing. I've been watching this kid for a long time, now. The first time I saw him was in the Olympics, where he was impressive. I've caught most of his professional fights on Youtube, shortly after the actual bout. There's no doubting his potential and obvious gifts. But I can't understand what makes him so praiseworthy now versus, say, his October fight against Whyber Garcia. Because he destroyed Rogers Mtagwa? Gamboa did exactly what he was supposed to do. A fighter of his caliber is supposed to quickly dispose of, or at least completely dominate, a journeyman like Mtagwa. To me, getting all crazy about Yuriokis Gamboa at this point is akin to blowing your wad in your pants. It's just not time...yet.

                Even ESPN's Dan Rafael doesn't seem to be immune. Here's an excerpt from an article he wrote on ESPN.com:

                "Gamboa is absolutely electrifying to watch and his hand speed is incredible. Has there been a faster fighter in the sport since Meldrick Taylor was in his prime? Gamboa, 28, the 2004 Cuban Olympic gold medalist who defected after a brilliant amateur career, might be even faster than the best of Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones, Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. Seriously. Mtagwa, 30, of Philadelphia but born in Tanzania, is no slow poke, but he looked like he was in neutral while Gamboa looked like he was in fifth gear as soon as the fight began. At one point in the fight, it looked like Gamboa got off five punches before Mtagwa could even put his hands up."

                The highlighted portions are some serious statements, wouldn't you say?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by -Reflexes- View Post
                  Seriously enough already.

                  Gamboa is an amazing talent, reflexes, speed, power in both hands, amazing footwork and skills for days. A once in a generation type of fighter.

                  JuanMa is a good fighter, but hes nothing special. He hits hard and has a good jab and left hook. He will beat up alot people in his day but lets stop comparing them. Gamboa's skill and talent is on a whole different level.

                  That is all.

                  you read my mind
                  great post

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by T-97 View Post
                    I would compare the two to Jones and Hopkins (Not necessarily their fighting styles, stay with me).

                    Gamboa depends on his natural athletic ability, speed, reflexes, etc.
                    Lopez is less athletically gifted, but is better fundamentally, can box, can punch, is tough etc.

                    I expect Lopez will have more long term sucess than Gamboa, assuming the two live up to potential. But Gamboas sucess will be more spectacular.

                    Hoping people understand my analogy...
                    my thoughts exactly
                    as i was about to type this i read your post lol
                    they are exact parallels of roy/bernard in terms
                    of good solid fighters (bernard/lopez)
                    and amazing physical talents (roy/gamboa)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                      The sudden wave of fanaticism for Gamboa has me laughing. I've been watching this kid for a long time, now. The first time I saw him was in the Olympics, where he was impressive. I've caught most of his professional fights on Youtube, shortly after the actual bout. There's no doubting his potential and obvious gifts. But I can't understand what makes him so praiseworthy now versus, say, his October fight against Whyber Garcia. Because he destroyed Rogers Mtagwa? Gamboa did exactly what he was supposed to do. A fighter of his caliber is supposed to quickly dispose of, or at least completely dominate, a journeyman like Mtagwa. To me, getting all crazy about Yuriokis Gamboa at this point is akin to blowing your wad in your pants. It's just not time...yet.

                      Even ESPN's Dan Rafael doesn't seem to be immune. Here's an excerpt from an article he wrote on ESPN.com:

                      "Gamboa is absolutely electrifying to watch and his hand speed is incredible. Has there been a faster fighter in the sport since Meldrick Taylor was in his prime? Gamboa, 28, the 2004 Cuban Olympic gold medalist who defected after a brilliant amateur career, might be even faster than the best of Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones, Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. Seriously. Mtagwa, 30, of Philadelphia but born in Tanzania, is no slow poke, but he looked like he was in neutral while Gamboa looked like he was in fifth gear as soon as the fight began. At one point in the fight, it looked like Gamboa got off five punches before Mtagwa could even put his hands up."

                      The highlighted portions are some serious statements, wouldn't you say?
                      Excellent post. This is what I'm saying. I'm a big Gamboa fan. I've been watching him for awhile and it seems to me like people are making him out to the next Manny Pacquiao because he got some exposure on HBO and beat the GREAT Rogers Mtagwa?? The kid has nobody on his resume. Let's not make him the next Jeff Lacy....People are either overrating Mtagwa or Gamboa or both. Even though I believe he'll beat Juanma. Juanma's resume is MUCH better at this point.

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