The Old Fighters are done

[Yarmez]

Random capitalization has begun......resistance is futile.

Oh Yes, It's on!.

Bring It!

[vB Martin]

Are you sure that you are not on a handicapped intramural debating team? Here are the facts: He had an injury. He withdrew from a fight. He had surgery. He had rehabilitation. He is now the champion. Although the injury he suffered has ended hundreds of successful professional careers you would rather parse words and dollop out very unclever sophistry to cloud the issue into some type of mythical gestalten narrative more indicative of the Aeneid . Now who is dealing with facts and who is dealing in bull****?

Again, rather than dealing in facts, you hand out insults. This time you even broke out the dictionary. I'm proud of you. claps all around for Nicht.

Yes, he had an injury. Yes, he withdrew from a fight. Yes, he is now one of four world champions.

As I have no facts to back up my opinion that he could have continued, you have none to back up your opinion that had he done so it would have ended his career.

My argument is that had he continued on to win a fight that he was going to win anyway, he could have possibly come to the forefront of the heavyweight division earlier in his career, when there were still people out there to make compelling fights with, and become a historic champion rather than someone who holds a belt in a division now depleted of talent.
He weighed the probablity of legend against the possibility of a foreshortened career and chose in favor of a mediocre career. Everything I have read and heard in the boxing world leads to the fact that he is considered the best of 4 people who wouldn't hold the crowns if there was any serious talent left in the division.

By the way, I have yet to see you post anything regarding your sports background or ring record. Is it because the only sport you engage in is insulting via the internet?

[NichtGeflechten]

By the way, I have yet to see you post anything regarding your sports background or ring record. Is it because the only sport you engage in is insulting via the internet?

Whoaaaahhh there ponyboy you'll have to ask me out to dinner first! Take me to the Greek Halls of History Diner! Where legendary consumables are forged from the hands of mere mortals for the GODS of GLUTTONY!!!! When we clink water glasses together it will be a MONUMENTAL CLASH OF THE TITANS! An ALL TIME edible spectacle so fantastic that life itself will pale everlasting whence it ends!

[vB Martin]

in other words, you have nothing to offer in that regard either.

have a nice life

[oldgringo]

Whoaaaahhh there ponyboy you'll have to ask me out to dinner first! Take me to the Greek Halls of History Diner! Where legendary consumables are forged from the hands of mere mortals for the GODS of GLUTTONY!!!! When we clink water glasses together it will be a MONUMENTAL CLASH OF THE TITANS! An ALL TIME edible spectacle so fantastic that life itself will pale everlasting whence it ends!

This may be the most worthless post ever posted on Boxingscene.com.

[NichtGeflechten]

Don't be so hard on yourself O.G. I think my quote moderated the worthless ******ity of your post.

[oldgringo]

No Nicht, your post was worthless. It was a waste of your energy. Never do it again.

[NichtGeflechten]

O.G. when I want clarity I'll ignore you. When I want the mindless amusement of an organ grinder's little buddy you are at the top of the list. Ok there little fella?

[bobbyjones]

You know nothing about me, but you can say I have never played any sport? I've played sports all my life, all of the contact variety. I have 2 ****ed knees, arthritis building in my left shoulder and 4 questionable disks to prove it.
Guess what? I still play football almost everyweekend with my friends, I still play on a softball team, I dive, I skydive and I work out daily.
I will likely suffer greatly for this in my old age, but oh well. At least I enjoy it now

Thank you for the medical information on how a doctor diagnoses a rotator cuff injury, but I already knew that.

Physically, V made the proper decision. No sense in causing it further injury. Financially, he made the wrong decision, and the decision he made probably did more damage to his career than the injury would have had he gone on and fought. Because of his decision, he will always have the ghost of it hanging over his head, people like me will always question his heart until he proves otherwise, and he will likely never enjoy a reign as a "popular" champion.
A sad as it is, the reality of boxing is that it's as much a business as it is a sport. He screwed himself in the business portion of it.

No because I ahve the sneaking su****ion that for a guy like Vitali, being called a quiter just makes him strive harder. I know that just sounds like ****** jargon but I honestly believe that Vitali is one of those treuly DRIVEN fighters. He is not like his brother, he never runs out of gas and he has a damn good chin. In my oppinion, if vitali ever reaches greatness, if he is ever more than jsut a big, tough guy, it will be partially because of his loss to byrd.

[Cleary23]

Yeah which makes boxing in big trouble because there is no upcoming big names.

And dont tell me trinidad will be around for long